good job quoting the last line of a parable and taking it as a command, noob.
Good job giving the stock answer to the only thing on the list you could just google, and missing the point of the parable itself (protip: the king is god). Also what translation did you use? It's certainly a very creative one.
Also good job simply ignoring literally everything else I posted, including the fact that you apparently didn't know that the doctrines of heaven and hell, and the idea of Christ's blood washing away sins, were New Testament ideas. Who exactly is the "noob" here again?
Seriously, learn how to present an argument that doesn't come from some "thirty ways to argue with mean old atheists" apologetics website and then maybe you can play with the big kids.
Also good job simply ignoring literally everything else I posted, including the fact that you apparently didn't know that the doctrines of heaven and hell, and the idea of Christ's blood washing away sins, were New Testament ideas. Who exactly is the "noob" here again?
i know all this. Just because you don't believe in it, which is fine, does not make it fascist. I don't have the need or desire to argue anything. I just find that your statements are pointless.
i know all this. Just because you don't believe in it, which is fine, does not make it fascist. I don't have the need or desire to argue anything. I just find that your statements are pointless.
You never mount any argument in favor of your side before abandoning it in the face of overwhelming logic and reason on our side. This is as 'lol' as your beliefs in abortion "you care about murder, so abortion is wrong" but you "dont care if people you dont know die".
Your views make a universal claim, that says the rest of us are going to hell. The very nature of your belief doesn't make it just fine that we don't believe in it-- and get over it, we have every right to mount an attack against it whenever possible.
It's not even not having a need or desire to argue anything, you run out of logical attacks and defences.
Now everyone is entitled to their beliefs, no matter how stupid they are, but don't expect some of us around here to sit around and say nothing when you express them, or champion them :smile:.
You can thank IVT for that, I just wanted to hear about cool beliefs like psychics and UFOs and shit.
IVT;48044 said:
i know all this. Just because you don't believe in it, which is fine, does not make it fascist. I don't have the need or desire to argue anything. I just find that your statements are pointless.
Of course it isn't the fact that I don't believe it that makes it fascist, it's the definition of fascism:
Fascism: "a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism."
Since you apparently already know that your biblical god exhibits literally every one of these qualities I'd think you'd be way ahead of me on this one.
And for the record, IVT's position ITT has gone from: 1. "lol god is not fascist or bloodthirsty" to 2. "lol new testament god is all nice and happy tho" to 3. "yah, I know that god is totalitarian, genocidal, and basically the ltimate supervillain, but I'm okay w/ that and it somehow doesn't warrant the use of the word fascist."
And now you know why we have the club, so we can say NO IVT! NO! STOP SAYING THINGS YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING INCLUDING YOUR OWN BIGOTED RELIGION SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP.
You can thank IVT for that, I just wanted to hear about cool beliefs like psychics and UFOs and shit.
Of course it isn't the fact that I don't believe it that makes it fascist, it's the definition of fascism:
Fascism: "a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism."
Since you apparently already know that your biblical god exhibits literally every one of these qualities I'd think you'd be way ahead of me on this one.
And for the record, IVT's position ITT has gone from: 1. "lol god is not fascist or bloodthirsty" to 2. "lol new testament god is all nice and happy tho" to 3. "yah, I know that god is totalitarian, genocidal, and basically the ltimate supervillain, but I'm okay w/ that and it somehow doesn't warrant the use of the word fascist."
And now you know why we have the club, so we can say NO IVT! NO! STOP SAYING THINGS YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING INCLUDING YOUR OWN BIGOTED RELIGION SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP.
fascist? right, that's why God gave us free will to do as we please. Meaning the choice to believe/ not believe is up to us.
bigoted? what's crawled up your ass? just because you don't agree with what i say, does not make me an idiot.
fascist? right, that's why God gave us free will to do as we please. Meaning the choice to believe/ not believe is up to us.
Oh hey we have free will to-- wait, what's this about burning in hell forever if we make the wrong choice?
IVT;48050 said:
bigoted? what's crawled up your ass?
Because authorizing the chosen people to kill whoever the fuck they want who is Not Like Them, and painting anyone with different beliefs as an immoral monster who deserves the eternal torture they will no doubt receive is totally not bigotry.
IVT;48050 said:
just because you don't agree with what i say, does not make me an idiot.
You keep saying things like this and yet again I have to say that we agree: It's not the fact that I disagree with you that makes you an idiot. I disagree with you because you're an idiot. I'm not sure exactly why you're such an idiot but I suspect it has something to do with your crazy religious beliefs.
fascist? right, that's why God gave us free will to do as we please. Meaning the choice to believe/ not believe is up to us.
bigoted? what's crawled up your ass? just because you don't agree with what i say, does not make me an idiot.
Fascism does not mean the absence of free will, it means the inescapable threat of punishment if you exorcise that free will, which is exactly what a hell-focused religion represents. Yes, the choice to believe or not is up to you, but you will still burn for it. Either on a stake, at the hands of mortal religious fascists, as in history, or in Hell, after death, because of the judgment of the ultimate spiritual fascist, God. So, yes, Christianity is a fascist belief system.
That doesn't make it wrong. Many, many other things make it wrong. But it does make it morally reprehensible.
Oh hey we have free will to-- wait, what's this about burning in hell forever if we make the wrong choice?
Because authorizing the chosen people to kill whoever the fuck they want who is Not Like Them, and painting anyone with different beliefs as an immoral monster who deserves the eternal torture they will no doubt receive is totally not bigotry.
You keep saying things like this and yet again I have to say that we agree: It's not the fact that I disagree with you that makes you an idiot. I disagree with you because you're an idiot. I'm not sure exactly why you're such an idiot but I suspect it has something to do with your crazy religious beliefs.
dude if your this passionate about hating religion, go to the fanking vatican and do something about it...or you can be like me and not give a shit about what ppl waste their time on
dude if your this passionate about hating religion, go to the fanking vatican and do something about it...or you can be like me and not give a shit about what ppl waste their time on
COMPLETE APATHY OR PHYSICAL VIOLENCE THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
dude if your this passionate about hating religion, go to the fanking vatican and do something about it...or you can be like me and not give a shit about what ppl waste their time on
Maybe some of us hate religion because of the violence and hatred it promotes, why would we go and do the exact same thing we argue against?
I'd rather die than live apatheticly in the world, never standing up for what I think is right or wrong, or just or unjust. Some things matter more than the recent trends in clothes or the latest hit song.
Nicely said randomuser (although the phrase "just unjust" doesn't scan very well). Also I'm gonna go ahead and quote this:
IVT;48056 said:
so i'm an idiot because of my beliefs? yeah have fun thinking that
Because it's basically the equivalent of a dude in a mental institution who thinks he's Napoleon saying "Yeah, I'm totally not Napoleon have fun believing that" and then rolling his eyes and wandering off with his hand shoved firmly in his jacket, a contented little smirk on his face.
Wait till you see my paper I am writing for my religious studies class. It is all about anti-Islam because of how that religion promotes violence, especially against non-Islams.
Wait till you see my paper I am writing for my religious studies class. It is all about anti-Islam because of how that religion promotes violence, especially against non-Islams.
Aren't those profs pro-religion? Wonder if they will be more critical if your reasoning isn't sound? I don't know, I've never taken any of those classes.
Nicely said randomuser (although the phrase "just unjust" doesn't scan very well). Also I'm gonna go ahead and quote this:
"or just or unjust", I should have just dropped the first or.
I was wondering if I was over stepping my bounds saying right or wrong, so I had to add in the just or unjust as a quick afterthought. I don't have to right to decide what is right or wrong, but it doesn't take a god to see what is fair and what is not.
Edit: (I'm not inferring only a god can decide what is right or wrong, and I believe there are objective morals, but unlike some people, I'm not going to proclaim and impose my beliefs over others or think they are 100% correct)
Maybe some of us hate religion because of the violence and hatred it promotes, why would we go and do the exact same thing we argue against?
I'd rather die than live apatheticly in the world, never standing up for what I think is right or wrong, or just or unjust. Some things matter more than the recent trends in clothes or the latest hit song.
LOL good on you for standing up against IVT, cuz clearly he goes around murdering people based on his religious beliefs
I mean at least do something significant for your cause, even try starting a club, im pretty sure the pope isnt reading your posts on talksfu lol
LOL good on you for standing up against IVT, cuz clearly he goes around murdering people based on his religious beliefs
I mean at least do something significant for your cause, even try starting a club, im pretty sure the pope isnt reading your posts on talksfu lol
Are you an idiot?
If I see idiocy, I will respond, not just in his, or his religious zeal. It doesn't take much effort on my part to think of a 5 second response and type it and press enter.
I can type my responses out more clearly than you, better articulated, and quicker than you-- that's pretty when sad you can't be assed to spell words out in full, or use full punctuation. Does using 'lol' a lot not make you a hypocrite?
If you saw someone making racist comments would you just move on, because they're not murdering anyone with their racist remarks?
If I see idiocy, I will respond, not just in his, or his religious zeal. It doesn't take much effort on my part to think of a 5 second response and type it and press enter.
I can type my responses out more clearly than you, better articulated, and quicker than you-- that's pretty when sad you can't be assed to spell words out in full, or use full punctuation. Does using 'lol' a lot not make you a hypocrite?
If you saw someone making racist comments would you just move on, because they're not murdering anyone with their racist remarks?
hahah wow i did not expect that from someone as "articulate" as you
i dont really give a fuck if you can type something thats "better articulated, and quicker than you"..why would you bring up grammar anyways? ahh and speaking of "clear responses" yours is excellent, no mistakes at all
how does using lol make me a hypocrite?
and the racist comments, no i wouldn't say something if it was on the internet, in person i definitely would
You're the pot calling the kettle black. You're calling us out and calling someone elses bullshit out, but you add "lol" to the end of your sentence to try and make it seem less poignant. It makes you a hypocrite when you're doing the same thing you're calling other people out for.
If you think I'm bullshitting, which I often am, cause I enjoy it, go ahead and call me out, just don't be a hypocrite about it.
Thank you for answering my questions as well, we are done here, just because you don't call people out on their bullshit online, doesn't mean other people won't or can't.
It's not like I'm getting all riled up about it either, sitting here, watching youtube, and it really just takes 5 seconds to type a response, but you are "lazyguy".
If I see idiocy, I will respond, not just in his, or his religious zeal. It doesn't take much effort on my part to think of a 5 second response and type it and press enter.
I can type my responses out more clearly than you, better articulated, and quicker than you-- that's pretty when sad you can't be assed to spell words out in full, or use full punctuation. Does using 'lol' a lot not make you a hypocrite?
If you saw someone making racist comments would you just move on, because they're not murdering anyone with their racist remarks?
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Also good job simply ignoring literally everything else I posted, including the fact that you apparently didn't know that the doctrines of heaven and hell, and the idea of Christ's blood washing away sins, were New Testament ideas. Who exactly is the "noob" here again?
Seriously, learn how to present an argument that doesn't come from some "thirty ways to argue with mean old atheists" apologetics website and then maybe you can play with the big kids.
I don't have the need or desire to argue anything. I just find that your statements are pointless.
Your views make a universal claim, that says the rest of us are going to hell. The very nature of your belief doesn't make it just fine that we don't believe in it-- and get over it, we have every right to mount an attack against it whenever possible.
It's not even not having a need or desire to argue anything, you run out of logical attacks and defences.
Now everyone is entitled to their beliefs, no matter how stupid they are, but don't expect some of us around here to sit around and say nothing when you express them, or champion them :smile:.
Fascism: "a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism."
Since you apparently already know that your biblical god exhibits literally every one of these qualities I'd think you'd be way ahead of me on this one.
And for the record, IVT's position ITT has gone from: 1. "lol god is not fascist or bloodthirsty" to 2. "lol new testament god is all nice and happy tho" to 3. "yah, I know that god is totalitarian, genocidal, and basically the ltimate supervillain, but I'm okay w/ that and it somehow doesn't warrant the use of the word fascist."
And now you know why we have the club, so we can say NO IVT! NO! STOP SAYING THINGS YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING INCLUDING YOUR OWN BIGOTED RELIGION SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP.
bigoted? what's crawled up your ass?
just because you don't agree with what i say, does not make me an idiot.
That doesn't make it wrong. Many, many other things make it wrong. But it does make it morally reprehensible.
I'd rather die than live apatheticly in the world, never standing up for what I think is right or wrong, or just or unjust. Some things matter more than the recent trends in clothes or the latest hit song.
I was wondering if I was over stepping my bounds saying right or wrong, so I had to add in the just or unjust as a quick afterthought. I don't have to right to decide what is right or wrong, but it doesn't take a god to see what is fair and what is not.
Edit: (I'm not inferring only a god can decide what is right or wrong, and I believe there are objective morals, but unlike some people, I'm not going to proclaim and impose my beliefs over others or think they are 100% correct)
I mean at least do something significant for your cause, even try starting a club, im pretty sure the pope isnt reading your posts on talksfu lol
and im apathetic remember? me getting the fuck out wont achieve anything
If I see idiocy, I will respond, not just in his, or his religious zeal. It doesn't take much effort on my part to think of a 5 second response and type it and press enter.
I can type my responses out more clearly than you, better articulated, and quicker than you-- that's pretty when sad you can't be assed to spell words out in full, or use full punctuation. Does using 'lol' a lot not make you a hypocrite?
If you saw someone making racist comments would you just move on, because they're not murdering anyone with their racist remarks?
i dont really give a fuck if you can type something thats "better articulated, and quicker than you"..why would you bring up grammar anyways? ahh and speaking of "clear responses" yours is excellent, no mistakes at all
how does using lol make me a hypocrite?
and the racist comments, no i wouldn't say something if it was on the internet, in person i definitely would
are we done here?
If you think I'm bullshitting, which I often am, cause I enjoy it, go ahead and call me out, just don't be a hypocrite about it.
Thank you for answering my questions as well, we are done here, just because you don't call people out on their bullshit online, doesn't mean other people won't or can't.
It's not like I'm getting all riled up about it either, sitting here, watching youtube, and it really just takes 5 seconds to type a response, but you are "lazyguy".
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You still care to explain why you think murder is wrong, but don't care if people die because you dont kow them?
Or even how you insult the lovely faculty of arts and fail classes in the sciences three times
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