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Anybody in the Student Success Program?
So my fears are that I may be asked to leave the university, so I was browsing the academic advising page and noticed the "Student Success Program". Did a bit of research on Google and found out it was for international, faculty of science and applied science students. It's confusing since it didnt say that on the official SFU page.
The Student Success Program is where these students are required to withdraw but are given a "second chance"; they attend weekly meetings while continuing in their selected courses.
However my question is, is anybody that is in the Program not in any one of those faculties?
The Student Success Program is where these students are required to withdraw but are given a "second chance"; they attend weekly meetings while continuing in their selected courses.
However my question is, is anybody that is in the Program not in any one of those faculties?
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Anyway, I'm not in the program, but it is not limited to those just in the sciences (I think proportionally those in the sciences are often more at risk for failing courses, which is how it ends up working out) for more info contact: [email]avasantos@sfu.ca[/email]
i dont think they edit your paper and help you academically
they help you get back on track and teach you how to organize yourself schedule in a way so you dont procrastinate
they limit you to 9 credits so you dont have a heavy courseload
so all they do is basically waste about... 18 hours of your life by attending those stupid seminars
Thanks a lot though.
500 x 10000 students (just a random guess) = $5,000,000
good ol sfu.
mayb that's why people say the SFU's business faulty is better than the Sander school of UBC
"The Student Success Program Required to Withdraw program is a pilot and
not offered to all students at the university while in the pilot stage.
Currently, it is offered only to first time Required to Withdraw students
(not Extended Withdrawl or Permanent Withdrawl students) in the Faculties
of Applied Sciences and Science as well as International Students. As it
is currently in development, the capacity of the program is limited. "
Ask them how much have they make so far from this scam?
MACM is hard which the likes of Arts courses can't even begin to comprehend.
Thus if one indeed does fail an Arts course, well, that's just sad.
This is exactly why this Student Success program isn't offered for the Arts Faculty because if you do fail in the Arts faculty... that's sad considering the ease of the Arts Faculty compared to the Science Faculties. No second chances for easy majors.
If you're saying its normal for someone in the sciences to repeat a class three times, it doesn't reflect on other sciences students I know, who have never even received a D.
If you look at the spread of grades across faculties there are not giant differences between in the arts and the sciences in terms of the standard distribution of grades, and in fact, the department that gives the largest amount of D's and F's is CMPT, in the past five years anyway. If people in the sciences are so much smarter, their more challenging courses shouldn't make a difference, and all their grades should be higher on average.
Being in the sciences myname, I'd figure you'd be superior in logic to an arts student (which is the claim you two seem to make with your trolling posts!), but you both seem to lack that superior logic, being you're making unsubstantiated and subjective claims about a faculty you are not even in.
Just because you've taken a few 100 or 200 or maybe even a 300 level course here and there, doesn't mean you have a representative sample of the faculty of arts. It just shows how ignorant you are as well to assume all arts degrees are the same as well.
Regardless of whether or not my faculty is easier, when I'm a lawyer, I'll likely be on par or exceeding your salary.
If you want to make fun of someones graduate degree go ahead, insulting someones BA isn't reflective of the type of job they will have after, which shows a gaping hole in your superior logic. Maybe it's even smarter to get a BA which is 'easier', so your first four years are a breeze.
While I don't claim that science students are smarter (or dumber) than arts students, nor do I remember someone stating that; as well I don't advocate that anyone should be doing a class a third time, but that is one case.
However, for some reason, arts student sure are adamant and refuse to believe that arts is easier than sciences, in both work load and difficulty of the material. The majority of arts classes involves reading a little bit and then writing a paper or two. This does not even compare to the work that is done in every science class.
You yourself, a while back, stated that you could not believe the amount of work that was to be done in the one science class you were registered iin. You even said so yourself that it is not the amount of work you are used to as an art student.
Why do you think they have to make special math classes for arts students? Because the majority of them would probably not be able to handle the material or work the science kids would require in the same subject. It's why CRIM students take STATS 201 instead of STATS 270, or Business students take MATH 157 and BUEC 232 instead of MATH 151 and STAT 270.
I myself have never received a D or less but I know plenty of science students who often receive C's in the sciences but when they go take a Phil class, a Crim class, a Pysc, Hist etc and get A's without half they effort they give in their science classes. Again, this is because of the substantial less work required and the difficulty of it. Art classes never have a distribution of a final like this:
Yes your eyes are not deceiving you, on that final, no one passed, because of the difficulty.
Now before you attempt to try and disregard what I have said because you claim I have little knowledge of any art classes, I have done a fair number of art classes from many departments and every undergrad level, include 400 level classes.
What I don't appreciate are the "ARTS LOL" comments, especially coming from people who do pitifully in the sciences and masquerade themselves as intellectually superior. It's ignorant, and illogical-- coming from the people that have the classes that supposedly employ more logic than creativity. People are saying it in a retalitory 'holier than thou' manner, and in the context trying to place themselves above arts students in arguments / debates on here (implicitly or explictly claiming they are smarter or harder working).
I know on proportion that the sciences as a whole are harder than the arts as a whole (I don't doubt you there), but grouping every department in the arts, and every department in the sciences as the same is a giant logical error. The department of math is in the Faculty of Arts if anyone didn't know.
I think when classes in the sciences end up with such low distributions a lot of it is on the instructor trying to cram too much into one class. I had a final like that before, and in my opinion of that one class I felt he could have done more to prevent that from happening.
PS: CMPT does give out a very high proportion of D's and F's in comparison to the other faculties and departments, theres a document on the SFU website that details the spread of every faculty, if I can find it again I'll edit and insert it here.
There here http://www.sfu.ca/arts/programs/index.html is the list of programs in the Faculty of Arts. There is no math there.
Here http://www.sfu.ca/science/ is the Faculty of Science page where it does list Mathematics.
It can be found here in degrees offered in the arts: http://www.sfu.ca/arts/undergraduate/Programs.html
and taken off another part of the website:
"The Department of Mathematics offers a program of study within the Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences leading to a bachelor of arts degree with a major or honors in mathematics. Students interested in a bachelor of science in mathematics should see page 229 in the Faculty of Science section. Requirements for the bachelor of arts in mathematics are set out below."
EDIT: I'm assuming the department is housed in the Faculty of Science, but offers a BA anyway...which is really weird how something in the Faculty of Science offers a Bachelor of Arts, and a Bachelor of Science.
Ok, well maybe not a B.Fa... but that'd be pretty awesome.