id choose Terry Fox over the designer of this prison
me too... =P but i'm curious as to why the designer even got an award for this architecture.. it's not the same designer as the one who designed surrey campus right? because i really love the surrey campus.. X) but can't say the same for bby.. =(
and to getoveryourself.. just drop the multiple account thing alright? i mean.. really.. do what your username says and get over it..
and for everyone else.. it's not like you're going to get shot for having multiple accounts.. take it easy.. =)
But wait, no one sees these messages -- except for the students of course, and we know how impressionable us SFU students are to negativity. Was that your plan? Speading animosity through the safety net of your computer?
your user name and the demeanour in 99% of your posts is negative and youre criticizing her?? interesting, regardless of the content of her posts that just makes you a hypocrite
why is it you only post messages of negativity? thats the only times you come out posting (on that account anyway) and if it is your sole account thats sad you only choose to respond with negative posts...
So what I am getting from this thread is that the SFU students who bash SFU do it to look cool. Honestly, if one of you SFU haters severely dislike something soooo much at SFU, why don't try to change it instead of bash it? Granted, some cons of SFU are difficult/impossible to change... but you can at least try to improve them or make the best of your situation. It's a-okay to complain about something about SFU because every school has its cons, but overall be proud that you are a SFU student and SHOW IT.
It's SFU haters like some people who have replied in this thread that bring down SFU's reputation. SFU is still a relatively new institution since it opened in 1967 so it might not be known by as many as UBC is... More SFU students should show their pride and tell others outside the institution what a good school it is, instead of always placing SFU in a bad light. Then maybe, SFU will gain a better reputation.
Here's a new question for this thread... why did you come to SFU? This will be especially interesting for those who hate SFU... If you say your reason is because the commute is shorter and that you want to go to UBC, then transfer and stop bringing your negativity to our school!
I suspect that quite a few SFU haters are the SFU students who bus/drive up the hill and attend their classes and then head directly home. You know what I am talking about... the ones that are not involved in anything whatsoever at SFU except attending their lectures/seminars/tutorials.
i go to SFU cause my program is nowhere else on this side of the country
i dont hate sfu as ive said, but i dont like it either as a school, if my program was at UBC i would have gone there, but theres not much i can do
i wont bother going into the differences between UBC and SFU because funding wise and geographically they are like apples and oranges, also:
you have to wonder are the people who go directly home, going home cause they have other things to do, or because SFU isnt offering anything theyre interested in?
either way i dont care, im going to school to get my degree and get out
also some say hate is more of a compliment than love, it takes a lot more emotion
your user name and the demeanour in 99% of your posts is negative and youre criticizing her?? interesting, regardless of the content of her posts that just makes you a hypocrite
why is it you only post messages of negativity? thats the only times you come out posting (on that account anyway) and if it is your sole account thats sad you only choose to respond with negative posts...
okay guys, quit taking out your anger on getoveryourself... a person who is passionate in defending his/her school shouldn't be bashed.
Besides, he/she makes this thread a hell of a lot more interesting :teeth:
he/she only comes out to post negative responses to people, not just about SFU, specifically he just posts negative respones to baby_e and its irritating to me when people jump on girls with opinions but theres rarely arguments between men
if he only had just posted here i would think different but ive seen other posts by him
you have to wonder are the people who go directly home, going home cause they have other things to do, or because SFU isnt offering anything theyre interested in?
either way i dont care, im going to school to get my degree and get out
also some say hate is more of a compliment than love, it takes a lot more emotion
I can understand why some people only come up the hill to attend lectures because of obligations like work or taking care of family, etc. I was talking about those people who don't have many commitments that just study. Those people are the ones who don't feel as connected to SFU because they're not in any active student organizations nor don't have many SFU friends. Those are the ones that find it easier to hate SFU.
We're all here to get a degree and graduate eventually... but we might as well enjoy the time we have here. I know people who have graduated that really miss the atmosphere and had the best times of their life here.
I think hate and love take an equal amount of emotion. They're both very strong words.
either way i dont care, im going to school to get my degree and get out
Finally! Someone who shares my point of view!
callonmeee;27525 said:
We're all here to get a degree and graduate eventually... but we might as well enjoy the time we have here.
:confused: The whole point of University is to get a degree. People who say otherwise just don't get it. Think about it this way: without providing an education, this place becomes Simon Fraser Community Centre. Who the bloody hell wants to bus to a community centre??? There are so many of those around that it would make the thing up on the hill useless.
he/she only comes out to post negative responses to people, not just about SFU, specifically he just posts negative respones to baby_e and its irritating to me when people jump on girls with opinions but theres rarely arguments between men
if he only had just posted here i would think different but ive seen other posts by him
Exactly.
As for getoveryourself, you're obviously the one here who is negative. You dont like what i have to say, thats fine, you dont have to. I could care less really.
Of course, the whole point of university is to get a degree. It's an educational institution! I'm saying that there is sooo much more than you can get from university than just a degree... the people that don't take that seriously are missing out BIG TIME.
I don't want to be here forever... I want to get my degree and get out too. ;) It'll be my time to leave in a couple of years and it will be bittersweet. I will always have fond memories of my university days.
In my opinion SFU is fine as far as getting a decent education. I've learnt to curb my expectations in other areas accordingly. I'm not a fan of the place, but as others have said, it's a free country. Either put up or shut up.
I've gotten to the mindset where I might as well make the best of it and get my degree as fast as possible. That being said, I don't feel embarrassed to say I go to SFU, but let's just say that the only reason I wear my SFU embroidered sweatpants is because they're comfortable.
My only regret is not seriously considering Waterloo, which from all my friends who go there seems to be a lot more fun, and conveniently enough also has an awesome criminology program. Mais au meme temp, c'est la vie, so we make due, right?
I got accepted into Waterloo... and University of Ottawa... and UBC... so why I came to SFU when it was my fifth choice I do not know. Do I regret not going to the first of those two universities? Yes. Do I hate SFU? Hell no, in fact I would not leave now to go any where else to do the last half there is way too much here that I like.
And technically, a university is to gain knowledge not to get a degree or a job, those just are a product of being able to prove that you have knowledge in a certain field.
And technically, a university is to gain knowledge not to get a degree or a job, those just are a product of being able to prove that you have knowledge in a certain field.
I dont agree, university is different for different people
for some uni is the means to an end, i know people who got jobs they knew little to nothing about solely on the fact they have a bachelors, they wouldnt have gotten otherwise with just a high school diploma
obviously a university is a place where you can learn, but not everyone goes for the same reason, for some its a right of passage in a capitalist society, for others its something else: a desire to learn, admission to a post bachelor program etc
for example the reasons a senior goes to university is different from someone right out of high school whos parents are paying for them to go when they dont even want to go, but need that degree to look professional and hold up to their parents standards
im going to school to better my life, its well proven that people with post secondary education make more than those without on average, at first i was excited at the prospect of learning something i was interested in, then i slowly realized my other obligations in life, like supporting myself dont allow me to have the same experience at school as someone would living at home or being supported by their parents
getting a bachelors shows you have drive and commitment, not knowledge in a certain field, that just coincides with it and may or may not further you
theres so many jobs that require you just to have a BA, and they dont even care what field you get it in
obviously some admission to grad schools and other jobs require you have the practical knowledge you learned to benefit, but not all do
so maybe i half agree, half disagree
to me school is a game, another test in life, a grueling four year test, if i happen to learn who emile durkheim is along the way that was a side effect
hmm... durkheim.. now that i think about your posts.. some of them do come from a functionalist perspective.. is that an unintentional slip of the tongue? =P
to me school is a game, another test in life, a grueling four year test, if i happen to learn who emile durkheim is along the way that was a side effect
Ive heard the name, but i cant for the life of me recall who he was or what he did that was so great.
I think it really comes down to initial perception changing everything.
In my high school at least, UBC is perceived as your top goal and SFU in case you can't make it there. What this results in is that the more inspired people, people with better grades, and generally people that really care about their education TEND to go to UBC and people that just want to get a degree go to SFU.
I KNOW I'm oversimplifying it, but this I believe to GENERALLY be a result of the perception.
Another thing is, it's just far more exciting riding on the 99 B-Line bus to UBC compared to the 145 to SFU. I don't know why but everybody is just more talkative and lively. This can possibly partly be a result of my last argument.
Atleast compared to UBC, SFU aesthetically, is shit. UBC has this cool japanese garden, everything is wide open in the fresh air compared to the concealed feeling you get at SFU, among everything else.
Wait a second, WHY am I at SFU when I can be fratting it out at UBC? Well, the computer science program here is supposedly better and my grades weren't good enough for UBC(hence argument one yet again). I will reanalyze in the four months I now have after my first 2 semesters at SFU and decide what university, if any at all, I will go to.
In my high school at least, UBC is perceived as your top goal and SFU in case you can't make it there. What this results in is that the more inspired people, people with better grades, and generally people that really care about their education TEND to go to UBC and people that just want to get a degree go to SFU.
Then what about the people that go to College...
Wait a second, WHY am I at SFU when I can be fratting it out at UBC? Well, the computer science program here is supposedly better and my grades weren't good enough for UBC(hence argument one yet again). I will reanalyze in the four months I now have after my first 2 semesters at SFU and decide what university, if any at all, I will go to.
So if your grades were better, you'd go to UBC for Computer Science despite them having an inferior CS program just because it's prettier? I'm not sure if that makes you fall in the first group or the second group that you described.
well, the people that go to college REALLY don't give a shit and they're the coolest of them all :D. but either way, how many people do you see raving about their college?
i would go to UBC even if the computer science is inferior because it really isn't about the quality of the education as it is about actually surviving 4 years of studying, something that I for one, doubt i can handle anywhere.
and people probably DO care about a japanese garden, that's the type of thing that would inspire pride in your university, just having unique multicultural things, do we have ANYTHING multicultural at sfu other than a couple indian restaurants?
i could be totally wrong but that's just what i think at the moment
well, the people that go to college REALLY don't give a shit and they're the coolest of them all :D. but either way, how many people do you see raving about their college?
i would go to UBC even if the computer science is inferior because it really isn't about the quality of the education as it is about actually surviving 4 years of studying, something that I for one, doubt i can handle anywhere.
and people probably DO care about a japanese garden, that's the type of thing that would inspire pride in your university, just having unique multicultural things, do we have ANYTHING multicultural at sfu other than a couple indian restaurants?
i could be totally wrong but that's just what i think at the moment
Uh, for computer science, it IS about the education. The better you are at coding, the better jobs you'll get. Not to mention, Google and Microsoft recruits more people from SFU than UBC simply because SFU CS grads are far better at what they do.
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and to getoveryourself.. just drop the multiple account thing alright? i mean.. really.. do what your username says and get over it..
and for everyone else.. it's not like you're going to get shot for having multiple accounts.. take it easy.. =)
your user name and the demeanour in 99% of your posts is negative and youre criticizing her?? interesting, regardless of the content of her posts that just makes you a hypocrite
why is it you only post messages of negativity? thats the only times you come out posting (on that account anyway) and if it is your sole account thats sad you only choose to respond with negative posts...
It's SFU haters like some people who have replied in this thread that bring down SFU's reputation. SFU is still a relatively new institution since it opened in 1967 so it might not be known by as many as UBC is... More SFU students should show their pride and tell others outside the institution what a good school it is, instead of always placing SFU in a bad light. Then maybe, SFU will gain a better reputation.
Here's a new question for this thread... why did you come to SFU? This will be especially interesting for those who hate SFU... If you say your reason is because the commute is shorter and that you want to go to UBC, then transfer and stop bringing your negativity to our school!
I suspect that quite a few SFU haters are the SFU students who bus/drive up the hill and attend their classes and then head directly home. You know what I am talking about... the ones that are not involved in anything whatsoever at SFU except attending their lectures/seminars/tutorials.
i dont hate sfu as ive said, but i dont like it either as a school, if my program was at UBC i would have gone there, but theres not much i can do
i wont bother going into the differences between UBC and SFU because funding wise and geographically they are like apples and oranges, also:
you have to wonder are the people who go directly home, going home cause they have other things to do, or because SFU isnt offering anything theyre interested in?
either way i dont care, im going to school to get my degree and get out
also some say hate is more of a compliment than love, it takes a lot more emotion
Besides, he/she makes this thread a hell of a lot more interesting :teeth:
if he only had just posted here i would think different but ive seen other posts by him
We're all here to get a degree and graduate eventually... but we might as well enjoy the time we have here. I know people who have graduated that really miss the atmosphere and had the best times of their life here.
I think hate and love take an equal amount of emotion. They're both very strong words.
Get my point?
As for getoveryourself, you're obviously the one here who is negative. You dont like what i have to say, thats fine, you dont have to. I could care less really.
I dropped this topic long ago. Get over it.
I don't want to be here forever... I want to get my degree and get out too. ;) It'll be my time to leave in a couple of years and it will be bittersweet. I will always have fond memories of my university days.
I've gotten to the mindset where I might as well make the best of it and get my degree as fast as possible. That being said, I don't feel embarrassed to say I go to SFU, but let's just say that the only reason I wear my SFU embroidered sweatpants is because they're comfortable.
My only regret is not seriously considering Waterloo, which from all my friends who go there seems to be a lot more fun, and conveniently enough also has an awesome criminology program. Mais au meme temp, c'est la vie, so we make due, right?
And technically, a university is to gain knowledge not to get a degree or a job, those just are a product of being able to prove that you have knowledge in a certain field.
for some uni is the means to an end, i know people who got jobs they knew little to nothing about solely on the fact they have a bachelors, they wouldnt have gotten otherwise with just a high school diploma
obviously a university is a place where you can learn, but not everyone goes for the same reason, for some its a right of passage in a capitalist society, for others its something else: a desire to learn, admission to a post bachelor program etc
for example the reasons a senior goes to university is different from someone right out of high school whos parents are paying for them to go when they dont even want to go, but need that degree to look professional and hold up to their parents standards
im going to school to better my life, its well proven that people with post secondary education make more than those without on average, at first i was excited at the prospect of learning something i was interested in, then i slowly realized my other obligations in life, like supporting myself dont allow me to have the same experience at school as someone would living at home or being supported by their parents
getting a bachelors shows you have drive and commitment, not knowledge in a certain field, that just coincides with it and may or may not further you
theres so many jobs that require you just to have a BA, and they dont even care what field you get it in
obviously some admission to grad schools and other jobs require you have the practical knowledge you learned to benefit, but not all do
so maybe i half agree, half disagree
to me school is a game, another test in life, a grueling four year test, if i happen to learn who emile durkheim is along the way that was a side effect
after two semesters i have 33 credits:smile:
Not bad, full course load?
6 (thanks AP physics!) + 12 + 15
In my high school at least, UBC is perceived as your top goal and SFU in case you can't make it there. What this results in is that the more inspired people, people with better grades, and generally people that really care about their education TEND to go to UBC and people that just want to get a degree go to SFU.
I KNOW I'm oversimplifying it, but this I believe to GENERALLY be a result of the perception.
Another thing is, it's just far more exciting riding on the 99 B-Line bus to UBC compared to the 145 to SFU. I don't know why but everybody is just more talkative and lively. This can possibly partly be a result of my last argument.
Atleast compared to UBC, SFU aesthetically, is shit. UBC has this cool japanese garden, everything is wide open in the fresh air compared to the concealed feeling you get at SFU, among everything else.
Wait a second, WHY am I at SFU when I can be fratting it out at UBC? Well, the computer science program here is supposedly better and my grades weren't good enough for UBC(hence argument one yet again). I will reanalyze in the four months I now have after my first 2 semesters at SFU and decide what university, if any at all, I will go to.
i would go to UBC even if the computer science is inferior because it really isn't about the quality of the education as it is about actually surviving 4 years of studying, something that I for one, doubt i can handle anywhere.
and people probably DO care about a japanese garden, that's the type of thing that would inspire pride in your university, just having unique multicultural things, do we have ANYTHING multicultural at sfu other than a couple indian restaurants?
i could be totally wrong but that's just what i think at the moment