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Why so many SFU haters?

callonmeee
edited April 2008 in General
Why does SFU have such low school spirit? When I talk to my friends at other universities, they take pride in telling me where they go to school. When a SFU student is asked where they go to school, I find that many sheepishly reply "Just SFU".

I came across this article in the Peak early on this semester and I thought it was just brilliant.

http://www.the-peak.ca/article/1423-last-word-our-university

SFU students should be proud that they are a member of the SFU community.
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  • baby e
    edited April 2008
    LOL sfu does suck!

    I do NOT take pride in going to SFU. It is just a notch above UNBC.

    Having it on my resume will hardly help me at all.

    Our school is a joke!
  • callonmeee
    edited April 2008
    If you think it sucks so much then why do you go here?

    How will having a degree from SFU not help you on your resume? (Arts student? hahahaha)
  • Broken Lizard
    edited April 2008
    Doesn't sfu have the best crim program in the country?
    or one of, lol

    or are there only 2 or 3 schools that have it so therefore its already near the top... haha
  • randomuser
    edited April 2008
    my like of sfu would be 75% higher if there were more places to eat, i dont even eat that much i just want more options
  • Jimmy
    edited April 2008
    SFU has its pros and cons; im just too lazy to type them out

    EDIT: Randomuser you sure like to eat
  • Broken Lizard
    edited April 2008
    pro: I go there.
    con: Jimmy goes there.
  • siuying
    edited April 2008
    randomuser;26615 said:
    my like of sfu would be 75% higher if there were more places to eat, i dont even eat that much i just want more options
    i agree.. plus we could use less of the fog.. wet conditions.. leaking pipes and RATS! :omg:
  • Shi2
    edited April 2008
    Many people outside of canada don't even know what SFU is while they recognize UBC.
  • randomuser
    edited April 2008
    i didnt know about rats

    i heard sometimes when theres fog at SFU students go missing and their bodies are only found months later, something about fog pirate ghosts
  • Jimmy
    edited April 2008
    Oh no! Pirates of the Sacred Cement!!!!
  • siuying
    edited April 2008
    as long as it's johnny depp and/or orlando bloom.. they can kidnap me anytime..:shade:
  • primexx
    edited April 2008
    Triple;26611 said:
    Doesn't sfu have the best crim program in the country?
    or one of, lol

    or are there only 2 or 3 schools that have it so therefore its already near the top... haha
    our crim school is one of the five largest in the world, and the best on the west coast, I'm not sure about in the country but I wouldn't be surprised.

    We also have better business and computing science programs than UBC, but nobody knows it.
  • Ether
    edited April 2008
    There's something about SFU I can't really describe though that makes it less inviting than say.. UBC for example.

    Personally I like the architecture at SFU, so that's not an issue.

    I'm satisfied to eat cornerstone pizza every day, so the food isn't an issue either.

    I guess it's the fact that there are very few places to just chill out on campus. Everything seems very focused towards studying, working, getting stuff done. (yeah, yeah... surprise. it's a university.) But still, I find myself wanting to just sit down and .. I don't know.. slack off for a few hours and there's no real place for it.

    I like to hang out in the CS common room (that can be a little too geeky sometimes), but the school needs a room or a building like that for all students.

    Oh yeah, and then there's the weather. SFU is a really nice campus when the weather is good. At SFU during the fall and spring semesters, it's never sunny though. It's not always pouring rain or snowing, but it's usually cold and miserable (I know.. it's a mountain). I'm just saying.. people go out and try to run events in the convo mall and nobody shows up. It's not because the event is lame. It's not because the campus life sucks. It's because nobody wants a hot dog and beer when it's -2 degrees outside and snowing.
  • Student0667
    edited April 2008
    It is the mis-management that pisses me off!
    Shi2;26625 said:
    Many people outside of canada don't even know what SFU is while they recognize UBC.
    Not just outside Canada, inside Canada as well. I was talking to one of my cousin's friend in Toronto and he don't even know what SFU is.

    I have to resort to telling him that UBC is on one side of the city and we are on the next.
    primexx;26634 said:
    our crim school is one of the five largest in the world, and the best on the west coast, I'm not sure about in the country but I wouldn't be surprised.
    More like the only one on the West Coast of Canada!
    We also have better business and computing science programs than UBC, but nobody knows it.
    That's what everybody say...
  • IVTIVT
    edited April 2008
    having to get on a bus at 6:40AM doesn't make me like SFU very much:angry:
  • Broken Lizard
    edited April 2008
    siuying;26633 said:
    as long as it's johnny depp and/or orlando bloom.. they can kidnap me anytime..:shade:
    me too...
  • getoveryourself
    edited April 2008
    Ether;26641 said:

    Personally I like the architecture at SFU, so that's not an issue.
    Ditto. I still remember the feeling of coming up Gaglardi (by bus) the first time and having the AQ and WMX staring back at me.


    I think there really needs to be a message sent out to to all students that the school isn't pointing a gun to their heads and that this is a free world with plenty of education institutions -- and you may leave at anytime.

    Oh wait, you can't (won't, too lazy, don't know the way out etc), for whatever reason -- people who hate our school continue to attend it. Go fucking figure.

    A special message though, to the SFU hating UBC rejects, who had no other choice after being booted out of your magnificent city school -- suck it up or go back to college

    To those who just dislike the school period -- honestly, have a social life at all? Any hobbies? Nothing at all to keep your mind off of our shitty ass school that you can leave at anytime?

    Not surprised...
  • randomuser
    edited April 2008
    i dont hate sfu id just rather go somewhere else if my program was anywhere else

    i came from a college and i maxed out my credits so i cant go back ;)

    its all relative really, if i lived on campus or in burnaby im sure id love sfu

    i dont hate sfu but theres plenty they can do to liven the place up, well maybe not now after all those budget cuts, but maybe the student society with all the dues its getting from the former cfs can step up and increase campus life
  • flo-ra
    edited April 2008
    Ether;26641 said:

    Oh yeah, and then there's the weather. SFU is a really nice campus when the weather is good. At SFU during the fall and spring semesters, it's never sunny though. It's not always pouring rain or snowing, but it's usually cold and miserable (I know.. it's a mountain). I'm just saying.. people go out and try to run events in the convo mall and nobody shows up. It's not because the event is lame. It's not because the campus life sucks. It's because nobody wants a hot dog and beer when it's -2 degrees outside and snowing.
    It's not SFU's fault for being located in Vancouver. I'm pretty sure it's always rainy at UBC during fall and spring semester too... and they don't have covered walkways like we do (one thing I love about SFU). I don't know how UBC gets their students to go to their outdoor events. Maybe their events are really actually better... for example, yesterday I went to their student society's year-end block party and they hosted a concert with bands like Stars and Wintersleep, with a BBQ, Rock Band, DDR, mechanical horse and everything. I'm not saying SFU events suck... but they are not nearly as epic. Maybe our SFSS doesn't have the funds to host these types of events or they are spending most of it on other issues?

    Anyway, SFU is very young compared to UBC, with less history and tradition to identify with, and that's probably why our students don't feel the same type of belonging that UBC students do. Plus, SFU's idea of community is different from that of UBC's. At UBC it's all about faculty pride. A couple of my friends are in engineering and it's like they've been brainwashed to think that their faculty is the best. I think they associate identify themselves more as UBC Engineers than UBC students. On the other hand, SFU generally encourages unity within the university... we tend to find ourselves taking courses all around campus and interacting with people from all the faculties. My UBC friends basically only hang out with other engineers. I see the whole unity concept as a good thing, but clearly it isn't really working. But all in all, I don't think it's fair for people to compare SFU to UBC, it's like apples and oranges.

    Oh, and besides covered walkways, another thing that we have that UBC students don't is knowing our exam dates when we register for classes. UBC schedules their exams after the semester starts... it's a pain in the ass for students, cuz imagine not being able to make long-term plans or if your exams coincide or something. lol I always mention this when I talk to my UBC friends =D
  • lazyGUY
    edited April 2008
    hopefully now that the sfss gets $430,000 extra every year, we can have actual parties. We all know that tuition aint gunna go down cuz of that extra money so mite as well use it too spruce up campus life. I mean does ne1 else here imagine Joe Paling and company making a difference regarding tuition? Has there actually ever even been a huge party at sfu b4?... like in the convocation mall or sumthing. That wud be pretty cool.
  • randomuser
    edited April 2008
    at my college i didnt know exam dates either, to me thats a luxury...i dont know about UBC but one thing I dont like about sfu compared to my college is not knowing whos teaching a class when i register, thats kind of annoying to me sometimes, when do they make up their minds about which sessional is teaching?

    i like to preemptively avoid bad teachers using ratemyprofessors.com
  • Jimmy
    edited April 2008
    i think that extra $430,000 is going to get reduced because of the rate SFU is raising those new upcoming cement block wings like no tomorrow
  • lazyGUY
    edited April 2008
    damn its probably not that hard to organize a party even if they have like $1000. They cud go buy liquor / kegs from like duty free or sumthing. They probably have good audio equipment n tvs at sfu readily available. I just wanna see sumthing happen.. everyday life is so boring at sfu. Like during breaks there nothing to do at all, other than study. All me n my buddies do is just go sit around somewhere in the applied science building and kill time. We cud hit the gym or play ball or sumthing too tho.. but who wants to smell in class? lol. They need like an activity room/lounge type of thing goin on, lol.
  • randomuser
    edited April 2008
    UBC has an(a) arcade(s)

    the commercial area at UBC is massive compared to sfu...whenever i go see my friends at UBC we like go along the beach its so awesome

    its not really sfus fault though, the points i just made reflect UBCs location rather than desire, what kind of profit did SFU get out of univerCITY? if anyone knows, that was or is their land??
  • IVTIVT
    edited April 2008
    randomuser;26912 said:
    UBC has an(a) arcade(s)

    the commercial area at UBC is massive compared to sfu...whenever i go see my friends at UBC we like go along the beach its so awesome

    its not really sfus fault though, the points i just made reflect UBCs location rather than desire, what kind of profit did SFU get out of univerCITY? if anyone knows, that was or is their land??
    i hope you're not talking about wreck beach eeeewwww

    naked old people FTL!
  • flo-ra
    edited April 2008
    lazyGUY;26911 said:
    damn its probably not that hard to organize a party even if they have like $1000. They cud go buy liquor / kegs from like duty free or sumthing. They probably have good audio equipment n tvs at sfu readily available. I just wanna see sumthing happen.. everyday life is so boring at sfu.
    There was an event like that at convo mall last year hosted by some business students (Black Ice) and it was pretty bad in my opinion =( Maybe cuz it was in January and it was snowing outside and they only had two heaters. lol I got all my UBC friends to go too! But maybe they'll take the feedback and plan a better party. Black Ice would've been pretty awesome if it weren't for the weather.
  • randomuser
    edited April 2008
    thats why you dont stop and stare at the naked people....unless theyre hot, the section of wreck is relatively small compared to all the beach at ubc
  • lazyGUY
    edited April 2008
    flo-ra;26914 said:
    There was an event like that at convo mall last year hosted by some business students (Black Ice) and it was pretty bad in my opinion =( Maybe cuz it was in January and it was snowing outside and they only had two heaters. lol I got all my UBC friends to go too! But maybe they'll take the feedback and plan a better party. Black Ice would've been pretty awesome if it weren't for the weather.
    Ya, a party like that in the summer wud be crazy.. especially if a lot of ppl show up. but i dont have my id yet :( , but o well theres always a way to get drunk .. o ya random question, do they do a lot of id checks at pub nite or even just on regular days at the pub?
  • Shi2
    edited April 2008
    lazyGUY;26922 said:
    .. o ya random question, do they do a lot of id checks at pub nite or even just on regular days at the pub?
    I'm not sure about pub nights, but I know they don't check ID on regular days.
  • Insatiable
    edited April 2008
    callonmeee;26600 said:
    Why does SFU have such low school spirit? When I talk to my friends at other universities, they take pride in telling me where they go to school. When a SFU student is asked where they go to school, I find that many sheepishly reply "Just SFU".

    I came across this article in the Peak early on this semester and I thought it was just brilliant.

    http://www.the-peak.ca/article/1423-last-word-our-university

    SFU students should be proud that they are a member of the SFU community.
    Let me lay some truth on ya :wink:

    There is no school spirit because there is absolutely nothing to be proud of at SFU. Seriously, I've probably attended the institution longer than most of this forum's users have, so my opinion is based on much observation.

    And to the schmuck who wrote the newspaper article: where the fuck do you think our opinions about SFU come from? Do you think that we think them up out of the fuckin' blue? Not quite. Our opinions are affected by our environment. Before responding to me, take a look around campus: sure there's new architecture being built, but look around the AQ, walk down the stairs to the parking lot under the Convocation Mall. The stairs leak and they have cracks in them. The AQ has fucking moss growing on top of it and nobody bothers to clean it up. I mean sports teams aside, our architecture isn't exactly in awe-inspiring. The AQ tutorial rooms aren't exactly in immaculate condition. Must I even mention the library, the RBC, the Rotunda, and the computer labs?

    I swear, each day I took the bus up to campus was like going into exile. SFU resembles a fucking prison--isolated, bare, and dilapidated (if anyone's ever been to Mountain Institution, you'll notice that the floors there are exactly the same as those in the West Mall--this is no mere coincidence :tongue:).

    This doesn't mean that the people aren't cool. I mean I've met a lot of interesting people while studying, but school spirit and friends at school are two different things. And don't anybody give me shit about my comments, because deep down y'all know I'm right :shade:

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