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approaching women in non-bar/club situations

edited November 2007 in General
Sorry, this is probably a terrible place to ask this, but I have to wonder. I do not drink (anymore), and consequently do not go to bars or clubs, and my friends mostly do the same thing. My question is, does it work just approaching women where-ever (IE: grocery store, library, hallway, at their workplace), and using the approach people seem to use at the bar (eye contact/ice breaker, say something clever, get phone # etc)? I know you aren't going to talk to some random girl and have her say "take me home" if you walk up to her in the library, but is it normal and worth the while for an average guy to do this? Do women mostly only want to be "picked-up" (talked to by a stranger who wants to date/have sex with them) in the bar/club (hence they are drinking alcohol, wearing revealing clothing, etc)? I have heard women really don't like getting hit on at work, but a coffee shop I always go to has good looking women working all the time. I have women friends and do sports, but they are mostly not single/are otherwise unavailable, and it's not a situation conducive to getting to know each other(I have trained muay thai for ~1.5 yrs), respectively... so I am wondering what other options there are.
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  • edited November 2007
    I think its all a matter of whether there is an attraction or not.

    I worked with girls some of them hated being hit on at work, but then other times they'd go on dates with guys who hit on them at work. I don't think it matters what the situation is, just depends on the chemistry, if you're considering interacting with strangers.

    I think you have to develop some repor or connection before you ask someone out or hit on them, strike up a normal conversation if they choose to talk back, then maybe its a good thing, if they arent interested it wont extend anywhere beyond simple courtesy since it's their job and they have to be nice.
  • edited November 2007
    i've got asked at the weirdest places.. at the atm while i was getting cash some guy was lining up behind me start talking to me and asked if it was my pay day and i said no.. i'm just depositing some cheques and he went on asking if i worked at this bank and stuff and so i replied no.. after i was done and i said bye and walked off.. then i walked into a shoe store and was in there for a good 10 mins before my frd called.. i walked out and he approached me and asked if i was the girl who was just at the bank and i said yes.. and then he proceeded to ask if i wanted to go for coffee and i said no cause my friend was waiting at the parking lot.. i didn't think it was inappropriate of him to ask.. just got weirded out that he actually stood outside the shoe store and waited for 10 mins.. @_@

    so i think it's okay to approach a girl outside a bar/club... but i would suggest not to use the approach most guys use at bars/clubs.. ice breaker and eye contacts are okay just don't go straight in and ask for a number/date.. keep in mind that girls at work or doing some grocery shopping aren't looking for a good time or a date.. instead try to converse with her and maybe ask/offer her coffee or something.. most of my girl friends are actually okay with that and so i would say they wouldn't turn hostile or just go weird on you.. =)
  • edited November 2007
    aww I think hes just really shy!
  • edited November 2007
    ^ hahaha probably.. =P but really.. i didn't expected him to wait and i thought that was quite gentlemanly of him..
  • edited November 2007
    Try starting by saying something along the lines of, "Hi" and lead on with a topic like, "My name is [insert name]".
  • IVTIVT
    edited November 2007
    I say no. Bad idea. Stick to the usual (tutorials/lectures)
  • edited November 2007
    here is what you do
    "hi"
    "hello"
    and whip out your penis
    works like a charm
    unless you have a small penis
  • edited November 2007
    ANY venue for flirting is usually okay by me.

    The thing is, in a bar/club setting, the general level of awareness is much higher, so your flirting cues don't need to be too overt.

    In the grocery store, I'm not super aware of who's around me.. I'm focused on the task at hand. I would, however notice someone if they went a little more out of their way to create an opportunity to connect eyes and smile.

    About clever lines.. well, unless they have something very relevant to what's going on in the store or in my shopping cart, please don't bother. I'd prefer real honest conversation... like for instance, what was it that made you want to approach me?

    Semi truths are a good idea here...
    For example: You think WOW what a rack on that girl. she is gorgeous, and looks so friendly and happy. I gotta fuck her!

    You say You look so warm and friendly and lovely I couldn't leave the store without saying hi... I'm ____ *extend your hand* and thats it... good luck! It's a numbers game, keep trying!
  • edited November 2007
    I hate being approached by guys in places where i am trying to get something done fast (ex. grocery store). I also hate when a guy follows me around (like what happened to me in a grocery store) and tries to bump into me "accidentally".

    If i go to a club and i am wearing a low-cut shirt, it is because i want to show off my assets, not because i want guys coming up to me to hit on me.

    Dont approach girls if they look busy. Try to be casual and nice, but if she doesnt respond back, then back off. Dont pester her. God, ive so many guys just pester me when its completely obvious even to blind and deaf people that i am not interested. Dont bother her if she does not want to be bothered.

    Creepy guys waiting outside of stores for girls to ask them out is NOT a turn-on....it actually creeps us out majorly.
  • edited November 2007
    baby e;17757 said:


    If i go to a club and i am wearing a low-cut shirt, it is because i want to show off my assets, not because i want guys coming up to me to hit on me.

    isn't that kinda dumb?
    you wanna dress up cos you wanna show off, yet you don't want anyone to come up to you? I'm not saying that girls should dress up so that they can be eye candy and be hit on by guys, but if you go to the club wearing something that shows off then you should expect that, and if you don't want that then you shouldn't be wearing that type of stuff in the first place, no?

    No offence to baby e, but the more I read your comments the more I get the idea that you don't think before you say anything...
  • IVTIVT
    edited November 2007
    you're right, but you know what they say, common sense isn't so common
  • edited November 2007
    Honestly though baby e, assuming you had your best assets on display, would it bother you more if guys hit on you or didn't hit on you?
  • edited November 2007
    Mengs;17808 said:


    No offence to baby e, but the more I read your comments the more I get the idea that you don't think before you say anything...

    haha burn
  • edited November 2007
    Why is it that if a girl likes to dress sexy, guys think that it's a green light to hit on her?
    Can't a girl dress sexy to boost her own self-confidence? there are anomalies you know!

    I go clubbing with one of my friends (who is in a Long-term relationship) but sometimes her bf doesnt come along yet she still chooses to "show off what her momma gave her" b/c it's just plain fun for us to dress up some times--and not because she wants to be hit on.

    I'm sorry but why should we be clumped into one main category-"girls who want to get hit on"-for a way we want to dress when we go clubbing? Most girls dress a bit skimpier than usual because that's pretty normal to do in a clubbing atmosphere. doesn't mean every girl out there is waiting for a guy to sweet talk her.
    and what do you guys figure we should do if we want to go clubbing but want to make it obvious we don't want to get hit on? wear turtlenecks the whole night? heck no!

    sorry...don't mean to go all Women Studies on you guys. hahaha

    might I add, what about overly buff guys in extremely tight shirts. yes we can see their nipples but..we don't go over and start groping them...
  • edited November 2007
    meesh;17836 said:
    Why is it that if a girl likes to dress sexy, guys think that it's a green light to hit on her?
    Can't a girl dress sexy to boost her own self-confidence? there are anomalies you know!

    I go clubbing with one of my friends (who is in a Long-term relationship) but sometimes her bf doesnt come along yet she still chooses to "show off what her momma gave her" b/c it's just plain fun for us to dress up some times--and not because she wants to be hit on.

    I'm sorry but why should we be clumped into one main category-"girls who want to get hit on"-for a way we want to dress when we go clubbing? Most girls dress a bit skimpier than usual because that's pretty normal to do in a clubbing atmosphere. doesn't mean every girl out there is waiting for a guy to sweet talk her.
    and what do you guys figure we should do if we want to go clubbing but want to make it obvious we don't want to get hit on? wear turtlenecks the whole night? heck no!

    sorry...don't mean to go all Women Studies on you guys. hahaha

    might I add, what about overly buff guys in extremely tight shirts. yes we can see their nipples but..we don't go over and start groping them...
    guys hit on girls at clubs, u wear sexier clothing or u look hot, chances are u will prob get hit on by more guys. it doesnt matter if u want to or not want to get hit on. guys dont know that nor can tell whether ur there to hav fun and not meet ppl, its a social environment, it comes with the territory

    i dont see any flaw in this logic, girls that dont get hit on at clubs, just arent as attractive /shrug that might sound shallow, but its a club atmosphere, ppl cant 'talk', they go by looks.
  • edited November 2007
    If i wear a low-cut shirt at a club, that does not mean i want to be hit on....its pretty straight forward. I agree with everything that meesh said. I am not going to walk around the club all night with a sweater on cuz i dont want to be hit on.

    If a guy hits on me because i am wearing a low-cut shirt, what does that say about him? And if he does that, then he shouldnt be offended when i tell him that im not interested.

    I like to show off my assets. I will NOT dress non-sexy cuz i dont want to be hit on, i will wear what i want....but be prepared that i will tell you to bugger off if you approach me.
  • edited November 2007
    DaNoobie;17820 said:
    would it bother you more if guys hit on you or didn't hit on you?
    Honestly, i dont care if guys hit on me or not. I am in a very happy relationship and i am not looking for guys to hit on me.

    Guys hit on me in class, at the grocery store, on the street, etc. It doesnt matter if they hit on me, it matters if they get the point when i clearly tell them that i am not interested.
  • edited November 2007
    imelting;17838 said:
    guys hit on girls at clubs, u wear sexier clothing or u look hot, chances are u will prob get hit on by more guys. it doesnt matter if u want to or not want to get hit on. guys dont know that nor can tell whether ur there to hav fun and not meet ppl, its a social environment, it comes with the territory

    i dont see any flaw in this logic, girls that dont get hit on at clubs, just arent as attractive /shrug that might sound shallow, but its a club atmosphere, ppl cant 'talk', they go by looks.
    i know it's hard to avoid going to a club and not expect to be hit on, and i'm not holding anything against you guys for trying!! i was simply replying to responses about girls dressing sexier, but when we're getting ready to go to a club the first thought on some of our minds isn't whether other guys will like it, it's more like "oh a night out, i feel like having fun and feeling good." :)
    I suppose if we don't want to get hit on, gay clubs are the way to go from time to time.

    also i think a good way of getting a feel of whether a girl wants you to approach her or not is to try to get her eye contact. if i was in this situation and i'm really feeling it, i'd probably keep with it and give a smile or something.

    but in response to Mengs, no i don't feel that it's "dumb" what baby_e said. I think everyone just has different reasons for going clubbing, to dance, to get hit on, or whatever, but if a girl wants to dress sexier that's her choice and if she doesn't like to be hit on at clubs, that's her choice too.
  • edited November 2007
    baby e;17840 said:
    Honestly, i dont care if guys hit on me or not. I am in a very happy relationship and i am not looking for guys to hit on me.

    Guys hit on me in class, at the grocery store, on the street, etc. It doesnt matter if they hit on me, it matters if they get the point when i clearly tell them that i am not interested.
    So you don't care if guys hit on your or not, but just because you dress to show off your assets, that doesn't mean you want to be hit on?

    I can see why girls are confusing now. *nods*
  • edited November 2007
    DaNoobie;17847 said:


    I can see why girls are confusing now. *nods*
    just hit on em anyways lol
    better than wondering "what if"
  • edited November 2007
    meesh;17836 said:


    might I add, what about overly buff guys in extremely tight shirts. yes we can see their nipples but..we don't go over and start groping them...
    this line caught my attention, except i'm not OVERLY buff and i don't expose my nipples. anyways the question is, would you LIKE to do so sometimes haha.


    and if you girls don't plan on getting hit on, hit the club with guys, not a bunch of other girls. plain and simple.
  • edited November 2007
    illicit;17851 said:
    this line caught my attention, except i'm not OVERLY buff and i don't expose my nipples. anyways the question is, would you LIKE to do so sometimes haha.
    lol! ....just a little pinch ;)
  • edited November 2007
    meesh;17856 said:
    lol! ....just a little pinch ;)
    21spike_jeremy_ron,0.jpg

    now to find him a fitted muscle tee. what brand do you like meesh, affliction , diesel ?
  • edited November 2007
    illicit;17851 said:
    and if you girls don't plan on getting hit on, hit the club with guys, not a bunch of other girls. plain and simple.
    it's doesn't always work you know.. my guy frds almost got into a fight once because some retard didn't comprehend the meaning of "no".. =)

    i'm backing up on what baby e said.. dressing sexy isn't correlated to wanting to get hit on.. and i fail to see how that was a dumb statement too..
  • edited November 2007
    its not dumb, just idealistic

    u might not want to get hit on, it just happens b/c of the setting u are in

    if the dude doesnt get it after u say no thx, then thats a different issue..
  • edited November 2007
    so you're saying that it's idealistic for girls to dress sexy and not expect to get hit on? i'm sorry but i don't see the logic in that either.. =\ i guess i can't figure out how guys think.. :confused:

    bottom line is.. there are reason other than wanting to get hit on that make girls wear the clothes they do in a club setting.. sure showing off assets can be one since when is it abnormal for someone showing off something they're proud of? (cars, trophies, clothes, gfs?) so how is physical assets any different than that? but really.. like imelting said about social settings.. it gets hot a in a club and hence you wear fewer clothing.. that shouldn't been seen as a direct cue to go and hit on a girl..
  • edited November 2007
    Mengs;17808 said:
    No offence to baby e, but the more I read your comments the more I get the idea that you don't think before you say anything...
    Lol, not offended at all since the other girls in this thread seem to agree with me.

    Now who doesnt think before they write things? I get the feeling that you're kinda slow sometimes with the comments that you write.

    Maybe go back and try to really read what I was saying and then maybe you'll understand.

    :)
  • edited November 2007
    siuying;17895 said:
    since when is it abnormal for someone showing off something they're proud of? (cars, trophies, clothes, gfs?) so how is physical assets any different than that
    Very good point. Guys show off their stupid cars all the time.

    When I go out clubbing, I like to show off my cleavage. If guys stare at me, well good for them. I am not wearing the shirt so that they will stare. I am wearing the shirt because it makes me feel and look sexy (in my eyes) and i dont honestly care what other people think.

    If a guy comes up to me and hits on me because he thinks thats what i want, then hes a moron because that is NOT what i want. If he doesnt take the hint when I tell him im not interested and gets offended when i tell him to bugger off, i could care less.
  • edited November 2007
    That's like walking around downtown Vancouver with a pocket full change jingling and expecting not to get bums asking you for money.
  • edited November 2007
    hahaha Ether has a good point

    What is it that makes cleavage sexy? Is it a female's perception of it, or the male's perception of it? Of course the male perception has created an appeal surrounding breasts (and ass for that matter) so you are only catering to that demand, hence making yourself believe you are sexy by luring the eyes of guys.

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