Are there limits or minimum amounts to how much 100, 200, 300 and 400 levels you can take?
Other than retakes, I don't think there really is a limit to the amount of course you can take in SFU. I mean, why would SFU limit the amount $$$ they can juice out of you? I have heard people graduating with 150+ credits because they switched program 3/4 through their degree and having to start from the bottom.
However, I have heard that some departments (ex: CS [I think]) limit the amount of upper level courses their majors can take because demand outweighted supply.
However, I have heard that some departments (ex: CS [I think]) limit the amount of upper level courses their majors can take because demand outweighted supply.
The reason I'm asking is because my friend told me that there's a limit to the amount of 100 level courses you can take before they start not counting in your degree. Is that true? I'm looking over the list of courses I want to take (I know it may change in the future, but I like to plan plan plan) and it looks like I'll be taking a heck of a lot of 100 level courses.
However, I have heard that some departments (ex: CS [I think]) limit the amount of upper level courses their majors can take because demand outweighted supply.
If you are not in CS and plan on taking 300 or 400 courses, they won't let you enroll until several weeks later. The seats are reserved and you'll have to be on the wait list even if there are tons of spots left. Although that could apply to any departments.
I think what summerheaven is trying to get at is overall degree requirements.
Your degree will specific how many upper division and lower division classes you can take. Check your departments listing on their section of the SFU website.
A lot of degrees are 60 lower division, 60 upper division. So if you take 100 low division credits, forty of those will count for nothing.
I thought you can't take more than 18 credits or so?
Well, you normally can't take over 18 credits PER SEMESTER. Going over that 18 credits limit would be a course overload and you need your Faculty Dean's permission.
Agentbob;41991 said:
If you are not in CS and plan on taking 300 or 400 courses, they won't let you enroll until several weeks later.
This would be "seat reservation." However, I swear to god that I have heard or read something about CS not letting their guys take more than the set amount of courses because there are simply too much guys in CS.
iVamp;42000 said:
A lot of degrees are 60 lower division, 60 upper division. So if you take 100 low division credits, forty of those will count for nothing.
They will be meet the breadth requirements, that is IF you didn't manage to nail all the breadth courses in your 120 lower and upper division courses.
I'm really confused now, hahhaa. I'm looking at all the courses I want to take in the future and it looks like this: # of 100 levels = 19 # of 200 levels = 10 # of 300 levels = 11 # of 400 levels = 2
I'm doing a major in Humanities and it says that I need 18 units of lower level courses and 30 units of upper level courses. But these are all for my Humanities classes... I obviously need more courses to complete by Bachelor's, haha.
Basically, I'm scared that 19 100-level courses are too much and I'm scared some of they won't count towards my degree.
EDIT Oh hey guys, I'm not taking about courses PER semester... I mean... in total for my whole degree... hahha.
iVamp;42000 said:
I think what summerheaven is trying to get at is overall degree requirements.
Your degree will specific how many upper division and lower division classes you can take. Check your departments listing on their section of the SFU website.
A lot of degrees are 60 lower division, 60 upper division. So if you take 100 low division credits, forty of those will count for nothing.
Yeah, that's what I mean. So I can take 60 credits of 100 level and then not take any 200 level or 300 level and take 60 credits of 400 level? I'm not doing this, just asking if it's possible, hahahhaa.
There shouldn't be any confusion, your degree specifies which courses they want you to take, and how many of upper division, and lower division it requires.
Unfortunately, with the amount of required classes you'll have to take I extremely doubt youll be taking 19 lower division classes of your choosing.
By the looks of it you will have credits not used for your degree, you can really plan this all out yourself before you start.
-at least 65 units in Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences subjects -at least 45 upper division units, including at least 30 upper division units in a Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences major program; no more than 15 upper division units transferred from another institution may be used toward the requirements for a major -lower division requirements for at least one Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences major -satisfaction of the Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences writing, quantitative, and breadth requirements (WQB Requirements)
-at least 65 units in Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences subjects -at least 45 upper division units, including at least 30 upper division units in a Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences major program; no more than 15 upper division units transferred from another institution may be used toward the requirements for a major -lower division requirements for at least one Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences major -satisfaction of the Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences writing, quantitative, and breadth requirements (WQB Requirements)
So I guess there's really no limit then? Haha.
NOTE:
For changes to Major/Joint Major effective 1 September 08 refer to the SFU 08/09 calendar and contact the Advisor:
Admission to Humanities Programs Please apply to: Christine Prisland, Manager, Academic and Administrative Services Department of Humanities and Asia-Canada Program AQ5114 Ph: 778-782-4094 Fax: 778-782-4504
MAJOR PROGRAM (Requirements prior to 31 August 08)
For current requirements refer to the SFU 08/09 calendar and contact the Advisor.
Offers a strong interdisciplinary area of study for students.
Lower Division Requirements 18 lower division credits, including: HUM 101-3 Introduction to Humanities plus one of: HUM 105-3 Western Civilization from the Ancient World to the Reformation Era HIST 106-3 Western Civilization from the Reformation Era to the 20th Century plus one of: PHIL 150-3 History of Philosophy I PHIL 151-3 History of Philosophy II plus one of: HUM 201-3 Great Texts in the Humanities I HUM 202-3 Great Texts in the Humanities II HUM 203-3 Great Texts in the Humanities III plus two further lower division humanities courses.
Upper Division Requirements 30 credits in humanities courses which must include HUM 495-2 Humanities Graduating Seminar. Students may, with prior approval of the humanities advisor, substitute one humanities related upper division course from other academic units towards this requirement.
+ You need to satisfy breadth, and WQB requirements...there is a limit once you take all your required classes...and by limit I mean count towards your degree...you can take extra classes if you want to but there wont be much use
^The quote I posted before is for Bachelor of Arts, what you are posting is from the Humanities Major. Where did you get that information from? It's different form the Calendar for 08/09 http://students.sfu.ca/calendar/humanities.htm
Major Program
Lower Division Requirements
Students complete 18 lower division units including
HUM 101W-3 Introduction to the Humanities
and two of
HUM 102W-3 Classical Mythology
HUM 105-3 Western Civilization from the Ancient World to the Reformation Era
HUM 130-3 Introduction to Religious Studies
and one of
HUM 201-3 Great Texts in the Humanities I
HUM 202-3 Great Texts in the Humanities II
HUM 203-3 Great Texts in the Humanities III
and two further lower division humanities courses.
Upper Division Requirements
Thirty units in upper division humanities* courses which must include
HUM 495-2 Humanities Graduating Seminar
Students are expected to include a breadth of humanities courses in fulfilling the upper division requirement. Therefore, they must consult the student advisor to plan their upper division course selection.
*In support of the humanities interdisciplinary approach, with humanities advisor prior approval, students may substitute one humanities-related upper division course from another academic unit towards the upper division humanities requirement. The same course may not be used toward more than one program (honors, joint honors, major, joint major, minor or extended minor). See the first paragraph for a definition of humanities related subjects.
I think yours is from the year before, because they took out the PHIL classes this year.
...there is a limit once you take all your required classes...and by limit I mean count towards your degree...you can take extra classes if you want to but there wont be much use
What do you mean by that exactly? If there is a limit, what is the limit? Can you give me the number?
What I'm asking is, is there a maximum amount of first year courses you can take before they don't count for my degree? From the Bachelor of Arts FAQ, it looks like there isn't because it says you must complete a MINIMUM of 120 credits, andat least 45 must be upper division, meaning at least 75 must be lower division. So if I take, say, 80 lower division, it'll still count towards my degree (meaning, it still goes into my CGPA and I'll graduate with 125 credits.)
I think you're a bit confused...I think you're looking at a general guideline.
To get a bachelor of arts you need a major...unless youre doing general studies I think? Without declaring a major or minor or something you can't even enroll in some courses sometimes.
Which is why I posted the Humanities Major, I think mine even said it might be a year off.
Anyway, to graduate you need to satisfy the WQB requirements, you need to take xxxx amount of classes as specified. You also need to satisify breadth requirements, xxxx amount of classes as specified. Some of the classes you want to take might satisfy these, some won't, and you'll have to compensate accordingly.
There isn't a limit in the sense that they will stop you from taking courses. To answer your question You need to satisfy the requirements of your major, WQB requirements, and Breadth requirements to graduate There is a limit implied in your majors outline (because after you take all the courses SFU *forces* you to take, you may have eaten up a lot of your elective courses (the ones you get to freely choose). I say implied, because you have to take required courses...your electives are entirely up to you.
To answer your question "So if I take, say, 80 lower division, it'll still count towards my degree (meaning, it still goes into my CGPA and I'll graduate with 125 credits.)" -- it depends on your major's requirements. Some majors make you take 60 credits of upper division, some less, it really depends. You still get credit for any classes you take over 120 credits...as for the CGPA thing I dont know, because I dont know many people who take too many classes. I think if you have over 120 credits, you might have to specify which ones you are not using to graduate...(which might mean only the GPA of the 120 classes would be your graduation GPA0?) I'm not sure.
Writing, Quantitative, and Breadth Requirements
Students completing degree programs must fulfil writing, quantitative and breadth requirements as part of their program. See “Writing, Quantitative, and Breadth Requirements” on page 7 for information. For the faculty’s requirements, see “Writing, Quantitative, and Breadth Requirements” on page 134.
Major Program
Lower Division Requirements
Students complete 18 lower division units including
HUM 101W-3 Introduction to the Humanities
and two of
HUM 102W-3 Classical Mythology
HUM 105-3 Western Civilization from the Ancient World to the Reformation Era
HUM 130-3 Introduction to Religious Studies
and one of
HUM 201-3 Great Texts in the Humanities I
HUM 202-3 Great Texts in the Humanities II
HUM 203-3 Great Texts in the Humanities III
and two further lower division humanities courses.
Upper Division Requirements
Thirty units in upper division humanities* courses which must include
HUM 495-2 Humanities Graduating Seminar
Students are expected to include a breadth of humanities courses in fulfilling the upper division requirement. Therefore, they must consult the student advisor to plan their upper division course selection.
*In support of the humanities interdisciplinary approach, with humanities advisor prior approval, students may substitute one humanities-related upper division course from another academic unit towards the upper division humanities requirement. The same course may not be used toward more than one program (honors, joint honors, major, joint major, minor or extended minor). See the first paragraph for a definition of humanities related subjects.
There is a implied limit student0667, because each degree specifies how many lower division you can take (due to the amount of upper division you have to take). Whether it be 100 or 200 is up to the students choice, as long as they satisfy their required courses.
It is only a limit in the sense that any excess won't count towards your degree, but will still count for credit and CGPA
There is a implied limit student0667, because each degree specifies how many lower division you can take (due to the amount of upper division you have to take). Whether it be 100 or 200 is up to the students choice, as long as they satisfy their required courses.
My impression is that as long as you fulfill your program requirement and take 120 credits, you can take as much courses as you want. Besides, like I always say, why would SFU limit the amount of courses their student can take. The more courses students take, the more $$$ SFU make.
Besides, there are students out there (ex: cowmilk 11) that change program half way through their degree and they have to start fresh. Therefore, they pretty much has to take more lower level courses then they need.
It is only a limit in the sense that any excess won't count towards your degree, but will still count for credit and CGPA
Yes, that's it. The rest will be GPA booster or killer.
JayDub said:
Because there are a lot of interesting classes that you wish to do?
*Sarcasm* Yeah, I always wanted to take a Women Studies course and found out just how much women can hate men.
I have a list of classes I want to take but I will already have over 120 credits. Classes such as
PHYS 192 - Logarithm and Blues PHYS 190 - Astronomy HSCI 120 - Intro to Human Sexuality CRIM 241 - Intro to Corrections (field trip to jails!) CNS 390 - Hockey in Canadian Pop Culture EASC 310 - Paleontology ARCH 226 - The Shamans ones ARCH 252 - Egypyt and Africa ARCH 131 - Human Orgins ARCH 373 - Human Osteology ARCH 4xx - Forensic Anthropology COGS 100 - Intro to Cogs REM 100 - Global Change.
I have a list of classes I want to take but I will already have over 120 credits. Classes such as
PHYS 192 - Logarithm and Blues PHYS 190 - Astronomy HSCI 120 - Intro to Human Sexuality CRIM 241 - Intro to Corrections (field trip to jails!) CNS 390 - Hockey in Canadian Pop Culture EASC 310 - Paleontology ARCH 226 - The Shamans ones ARCH 252 - Egypyt and Africa ARCH 131 - Human Orgins ARCH 373 - Human Osteology ARCH 4xx - Forensic Anthropology COGS 100 - Intro to Cogs REM 100 - Global Change.
Just to name a few.
Well, not all of us have a ROTP scholarship curtesy of the Canadian Armed Forces. So, we'll rather leave the moment we get 120 credits. However, if money is no option, then I am interested in trying a Triple Major in History/ Humanities/ Asian Studies.
What's your major Jay? CS? That's a pretty good list. I would definitely recommend REM100, good course. I still need a couple more credits for lower division, so I'm planning on taking Greek mythology and religion studies.
I think you're a bit confused...I think you're looking at a general guideline.
Yes, I am looking at my general guidelines, and that's what I am asking. For Humanities, you need 18 lower division credits and you obviously don't stop there, at 18 credits. That's why not only am I looking at my Humanities Major requirement, I am also looking at my Bachelor of Arts requirement as well.
There isn't a limit in the sense that they will stop you from taking courses.
I know that, my questions is, is there a point where you take so many first year courses that they don't count for your CGPA anymore?
I honestly do not understand why you keep copying and pasting the Humanities major requirements and talking about WQB, I'm already clear about this and it does not relate to my question in any way.
JayDub;42071 said:
I am major in CS, minor in Crim and certificate in lib arts and innovative leadership.
I'm hoping to do a certificate in Liberal Arts as well! That's why I seem to have an overload of first level courses....
I think I've pretty much figured out the answer to my own question, thanks to everyone who gave me a clear answer.
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However, I have heard that some departments (ex: CS [I think]) limit the amount of upper level courses their majors can take because demand outweighted supply.
I know you can't take more than four 300/400 level courses, at least in the CMNS department. Boo.
Your degree will specific how many upper division and lower division classes you can take. Check your departments listing on their section of the SFU website.
A lot of degrees are 60 lower division, 60 upper division. So if you take 100 low division credits, forty of those will count for nothing.
# of 100 levels = 19
# of 200 levels = 10
# of 300 levels = 11
# of 400 levels = 2
I'm doing a major in Humanities and it says that I need 18 units of lower level courses and 30 units of upper level courses. But these are all for my Humanities classes... I obviously need more courses to complete by Bachelor's, haha.
Basically, I'm scared that 19 100-level courses are too much and I'm scared some of they won't count towards my degree.
EDIT Oh hey guys, I'm not taking about courses PER semester... I mean... in total for my whole degree... hahha. Yeah, that's what I mean. So I can take 60 credits of 100 level and then not take any 200 level or 300 level and take 60 credits of 400 level? I'm not doing this, just asking if it's possible, hahahhaa.
Unfortunately, with the amount of required classes you'll have to take I extremely doubt youll be taking 19 lower division classes of your choosing.
By the looks of it you will have credits not used for your degree, you can really plan this all out yourself before you start.
that is all
http://www.sfu.ca/arts/undergraduate/BAOptions.html#Major
At least 120 units are required, which include:
-at least 65 units in Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences subjects
-at least 45 upper division units, including at least 30 upper division units in a Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences major program; no more than 15 upper division units transferred from another institution may be used toward the requirements for a major
-lower division requirements for at least one Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences major
-satisfaction of the Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences writing, quantitative, and breadth requirements (WQB Requirements)
So I guess there's really no limit then? Haha.
NOTE:
For changes to Major/Joint Major effective 1 September 08 refer to the SFU 08/09 calendar and contact the Advisor:
Admission to Humanities Programs
Please apply to:
Christine Prisland,
Manager, Academic and Administrative Services
Department of Humanities and Asia-Canada Program
AQ5114
Ph: 778-782-4094 Fax: 778-782-4504
MAJOR PROGRAM (Requirements prior to 31 August 08)
For current requirements refer to the SFU 08/09 calendar and contact the Advisor.
Offers a strong interdisciplinary area of study for students.
Lower Division Requirements
18 lower division credits, including:
HUM 101-3 Introduction to Humanities
plus one of:
HUM 105-3 Western Civilization from the Ancient World to the Reformation Era
HIST 106-3 Western Civilization from the Reformation Era to the 20th Century
plus one of:
PHIL 150-3 History of Philosophy I
PHIL 151-3 History of Philosophy II
plus one of:
HUM 201-3 Great Texts in the Humanities I
HUM 202-3 Great Texts in the Humanities II
HUM 203-3 Great Texts in the Humanities III
plus two further lower division humanities courses.
Upper Division Requirements
30 credits in humanities courses which must include HUM 495-2 Humanities Graduating Seminar. Students may, with prior approval of the humanities advisor, substitute one humanities related upper division course from other academic units towards this requirement.
+ You need to satisfy breadth, and WQB requirements...there is a limit once you take all your required classes...and by limit I mean count towards your degree...you can take extra classes if you want to but there wont be much use
http://students.sfu.ca/calendar/humanities.htm
Major Program
Lower Division Requirements
Students complete 18 lower division units including
HUM 101W-3 Introduction to the Humanities
and two of
HUM 102W-3 Classical Mythology
HUM 105-3 Western Civilization from the Ancient World to the Reformation Era
HUM 130-3 Introduction to Religious Studies
and one of
HUM 201-3 Great Texts in the Humanities I
HUM 202-3 Great Texts in the Humanities II
HUM 203-3 Great Texts in the Humanities III
and two further lower division humanities courses.
Upper Division Requirements
Thirty units in upper division humanities* courses which must include
HUM 495-2 Humanities Graduating Seminar
Students are expected to include a breadth of humanities courses in fulfilling the upper division requirement. Therefore, they must consult the student advisor to plan their upper division course selection.
*In support of the humanities interdisciplinary approach, with humanities advisor prior approval, students may substitute one humanities-related upper division course from another academic unit towards the upper division humanities requirement. The same course may not be used toward more than one program (honors, joint honors, major, joint major, minor or extended minor). See the first paragraph for a definition of humanities related subjects.
I think yours is from the year before, because they took out the PHIL classes this year. What do you mean by that exactly? If there is a limit, what is the limit? Can you give me the number?
What I'm asking is, is there a maximum amount of first year courses you can take before they don't count for my degree?
From the Bachelor of Arts FAQ, it looks like there isn't because it says you must complete a MINIMUM of 120 credits, andat least 45 must be upper division, meaning at least 75 must be lower division. So if I take, say, 80 lower division, it'll still count towards my degree (meaning, it still goes into my CGPA and I'll graduate with 125 credits.)
To get a bachelor of arts you need a major...unless youre doing general studies I think? Without declaring a major or minor or something you can't even enroll in some courses sometimes.
Which is why I posted the Humanities Major, I think mine even said it might be a year off.
Anyway, to graduate you need to satisfy the WQB requirements, you need to take xxxx amount of classes as specified. You also need to satisify breadth requirements, xxxx amount of classes as specified. Some of the classes you want to take might satisfy these, some won't, and you'll have to compensate accordingly.
There isn't a limit in the sense that they will stop you from taking courses. To answer your question You need to satisfy the requirements of your major, WQB requirements, and Breadth requirements to graduate There is a limit implied in your majors outline (because after you take all the courses SFU *forces* you to take, you may have eaten up a lot of your elective courses (the ones you get to freely choose). I say implied, because you have to take required courses...your electives are entirely up to you.
To answer your question "So if I take, say, 80 lower division, it'll still count towards my degree (meaning, it still goes into my CGPA and I'll graduate with 125 credits.)" -- it depends on your major's requirements. Some majors make you take 60 credits of upper division, some less, it really depends. You still get credit for any classes you take over 120 credits...as for the CGPA thing I dont know, because I dont know many people who take too many classes. I think if you have over 120 credits, you might have to specify which ones you are not using to graduate...(which might mean only the GPA of the 120 classes would be your graduation GPA0?) I'm not sure.
Writing, Quantitative, and Breadth Requirements
Students completing degree programs must fulfil writing, quantitative and breadth requirements as part of their program. See “Writing, Quantitative, and Breadth Requirements” on page 7 for information. For the faculty’s requirements, see “Writing, Quantitative, and Breadth Requirements” on page 134.
Major Program
Lower Division Requirements
Students complete 18 lower division units including
HUM 101W-3 Introduction to the Humanities
and two of
HUM 102W-3 Classical Mythology
HUM 105-3 Western Civilization from the Ancient World to the Reformation Era
HUM 130-3 Introduction to Religious Studies
and one of
HUM 201-3 Great Texts in the Humanities I
HUM 202-3 Great Texts in the Humanities II
HUM 203-3 Great Texts in the Humanities III
and two further lower division humanities courses.
Upper Division Requirements
Thirty units in upper division humanities* courses which must include
HUM 495-2 Humanities Graduating Seminar
Students are expected to include a breadth of humanities courses in fulfilling the upper division requirement. Therefore, they must consult the student advisor to plan their upper division course selection.
*In support of the humanities interdisciplinary approach, with humanities advisor prior approval, students may substitute one humanities-related upper division course from another academic unit towards the upper division humanities requirement. The same course may not be used toward more than one program (honors, joint honors, major, joint major, minor or extended minor). See the first paragraph for a definition of humanities related subjects.
However, I don't understand why you would want to take over 120 credits.
It is only a limit in the sense that any excess won't count towards your degree, but will still count for credit and CGPA
Besides, there are students out there (ex: cowmilk 11) that change program half way through their degree and they have to start fresh. Therefore, they pretty much has to take more lower level courses then they need. Yes, that's it. The rest will be GPA booster or killer. *Sarcasm* Yeah, I always wanted to take a Women Studies course and found out just how much women can hate men.
PHYS 192 - Logarithm and Blues
PHYS 190 - Astronomy
HSCI 120 - Intro to Human Sexuality
CRIM 241 - Intro to Corrections (field trip to jails!)
CNS 390 - Hockey in Canadian Pop Culture
EASC 310 - Paleontology
ARCH 226 - The Shamans ones
ARCH 252 - Egypyt and Africa
ARCH 131 - Human Orgins
ARCH 373 - Human Osteology
ARCH 4xx - Forensic Anthropology
COGS 100 - Intro to Cogs
REM 100 - Global Change.
Just to name a few.
Classes I have already taken... I am going to have to remember this:
Fall '06
CMPT 126
MACM 101
MATH 151
PHIL 100
EASC 103 (Rise and Fall of Dinosaurs)
Spring '07
CMPT 150, 165, 225
GERM 104
PHYS 101
MATH 152
Fall 07
ENSC 250
HIST 101
STAT 270
CRIM 135
MATH 232
SPRING 08
CMPT 275
CMPT 300
CRIM 101
CRIM 135
MACM 201
Summer 08
CMPT 363
Fall 08
CMPT 310, 320, 371
MACM 316
CRIM 355
Spring 09
CMPT 307, 376
ARCH 200
HUM 130
CRIM 356, 402
I honestly do not understand why you keep copying and pasting the Humanities major requirements and talking about WQB, I'm already clear about this and it does not relate to my question in any way. I'm hoping to do a certificate in Liberal Arts as well! That's why I seem to have an overload of first level courses....
I think I've pretty much figured out the answer to my own question, thanks to everyone who gave me a clear answer.