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"Error" on Enrolling. **WHY?**

sfu_student
edited July 2008 in General
Hello,

Thank you for opening this post and kindly reading this right now. I am currently doing my enrollment and encountered a friendly error regarding one of the courses that I plan to enroll. I am perfectly aware that this error could occur IF prerequisites and corerequisites are not met. With that knowing, I should be able to enroll perfectly fine. However, this did not happen.

You see, I enrolled in CHEM 121-4 General Chemistry and Laboratory I which has the prerequisite of taking Chemistry 12 which I evidently took. Also, the course description implied that it is RECOMMENDED to take Math 151 and Phys 120 at the same time.

So my question is, does "RECOMMENDED" mean its a "must" to take those classes or does the "recommended" word follow the global dictionary meaning of "optional"?


Here's the actual quote from the course description:
REQ-BC high school Chem 12 or CHEM 111 (or 101 and 106). RECOMMENDED: Coreqs MATH 151 (or 154) & PHYS 120 (or 101). Students may not count both CHEM 120 and CHEM 121 for credit. Students may not count both CHEM 121 & (CHEM 102 and 115) for credit.

Comments

  • Student0667
    edited July 2008
    Before I go any further, are you certain that there are no scheduling conflict or anything? Also, I do believe that "recommended" do mean "recommended."
  • sfu_student
    edited July 2008
    Student0667;33245 said:
    Before I go any further, are you certain that there are no scheduling conflict or anything? Also, I do believe that "recommended" do mean "recommended."
    Yes, I am 1000% sure that there is no conflict on any classes due to the fact that I laid my courses and all of its times 3x on paper.

    However, I'm just thinking here that the only reason I did not get it is that I have taken my Provincial on June 2008 and the results have not yet been posted and will be posted later this July. In my opinion, that reason is just too far fetched because it blatantly said in the requirement for this course that one just need the course of CHEM 12. Furthermore, with my course mark I won't fail no matter what happened in the provincial so clearly, I should be able to get this course!

    Hm...
  • Student0667
    edited July 2008
    Contact the assholes at Student Admission by phones, it probably their fault then.

    778.782.4356
  • sfu_student
    edited July 2008
    Anyways, maybe this will help:

    Time Schedule regarding all of my wanted courses:

    Monday - Chem121 10:30am-11:20am (lecture)
    Bisc101 1:30pm-2:20pm (tutorial)
    HSCL 3:30pm - 4:20pm (tutorial)

    Tuesday - BISC101 9:30am-10:20am (lecture)
    BISC102 12:30-1:20pm (lecture)
    HSCL130 2:30pm-4:20pm (lecture)

    Wednesday- CHEM121 10:30am-11:20am (lecture)
    CHEM121 1:30pm-2:20pm (tutorial)
    BISC102 2:30pm-3:20pm (lab)

    Thursday - BISC101 9:30am-10:20am (lecture)
    BISC102 12:30 - 1:20pm (lecture)
    CHEM121 1:30pm-5:20pm (lab)

    Friday - CHEM121 10:30am-11:20am (lecture)
    BISC102 2:30pm-5:20pm (lab)


    Also, the error that popped out said this:
    Unable to add this class - requisites have not been met. Check the class description for a list of enrollment requirements.
    I have no idea why because I took Chemistry 12 already!
  • sfu_student
    edited July 2008
    Student0667;33249 said:
    Contact the assholes at Student Admission by phones, it probably their fault then.

    778.782.4356
    Great. I was getting to that. Thanks for the number. =)


    EDIT: Darn. Busy line. Probably a lot like me are having problems too.
  • Student0667
    edited July 2008
    sfustudent;33251 said:
    Great. I was getting to that. Thanks for the number. =)


    EDIT: Darn. Busy line. Probably a lot like me are having problems too.
    No, it is probably lunch. They are known to walk off their post for lunch or break even through there is a huge line up in front of their counter.
  • sfu_student
    edited July 2008
    Student0667;33252 said:
    No, it is probably lunch. They are known to walk off their post for lunch or break even through there is a huge line up in front of their counter.
    WTF. If my classes are pending and is not yet accepted, does that mean I could lose my seat or is it already reserved?
  • Student0667
    edited July 2008
    sfustudent;33253 said:
    WTF. If my classes are pending and is not yet accepted, does that mean I could lose my seat or is it already reserved?
    Now that's beyond me, any science people want to take over?
  • schmoey
    edited July 2008
    sfustudent;33253 said:
    WTF. If my classes are pending and is not yet accepted, does that mean I could lose my seat or is it already reserved?
    Well, I was under the impression that yes you can lose your seat because it's not actually checked out, because I remember the blueprints advisor recommending registering each course one by one to ensure that you get it (because if you go around browsing for others it could be gone by the time you actually do check out). I think you'll be fine though -- after all, this is the first day.
  • Iran1988
    edited July 2008
    strange.

    I picked that course too, i didnt' take any of the 151 or whatever. no errors.
  • S56
    edited July 2008
    If you have enrolled and registered for your classes, does that mean you are fully accepted?
  • randomuser
    edited July 2008
    you can either enroll in them or you are not enrolled

    theres numerous errors in the catalogue where they dont list the pre requisites you need

    last semester i couldnt enroll in a class because apparently i needed 90 credits even though it didnt say that in go.sfu and in the course catalogue pdf

    contact the advisor and they can issue a waiver or resolve it generally, or the other number given to you
  • Makall
    edited July 2008
    sfustudent;33244 said:
    Hello,

    Thank you for opening this post and kindly reading this right now. I am currently doing my enrollment and encountered a friendly error regarding one of the courses that I plan to enroll. I am perfectly aware that this error could occur IF prerequisites and corerequisites are not met. With that knowing, I should be able to enroll perfectly fine. However, this did not happen.

    You see, I enrolled in CHEM 121-4 General Chemistry and Laboratory I which has the prerequisite of taking Chemistry 12 which I evidently took. Also, the course description implied that it is RECOMMENDED to take Math 151 and Phys 120 at the same time.

    So my question is, does "RECOMMENDED" mean its a "must" to take those classes or does the "recommended" word follow the global dictionary meaning of "optional"?


    Here's the actual quote from the course description:
    Do you not know the difference between "Recommended" and "Requisite"?
  • sfu_student
    edited July 2008
    Makall;33279 said:
    Do you not know the difference between "Recommended" and "Requisite"?
    What are you trying to pull? You sound mad for some wrong reasons. Yes, I do know the difference between those words. One is required and one is not. If you're here to make fun or what not, please go somewhere else where you can ease off your anger-sense-of-humor.

    Anyways, thanks for all the respond. Greatly appreciated except the one above. HAHA, just kidding. At least you read some of my post.
    All are fine now. =)
  • randomuser
    edited July 2008
    makall just has a stick up his ass

    youll run into many situations as i said, where go.sfu and the PDF dont mention the proper pre reqs you need, and then the advisors get pissy when you ask them why you cant enroll
  • lazyGUY
    edited July 2008
    it may have to do with fanx99 or falx99 or wtvr the hell they call those things
  • flo-ra
    edited July 2008
    My sister had a similar problem today with CMPT 165, which has no prereqs but the system wouldn't let her register. I went to ask the CMPT advisor for her while I was at school and she said there must've been something wrong with the gosfu system because a lot of people were calling in about the same problem. Anyway, she said would enroll her in the course manually.

    So I suggest you go and talk to an advisor in person... you could try calling but they are pretty busy right now with drop-in advising since enrollment just started.
  • primexx
    edited July 2008
    S56;33266 said:
    If you have enrolled and registered for your classes, does that mean you are fully accepted?
    not if you're in grade 12 right now, full admission from high school happens after they get your final mark, which is (for now) after provincials come out.
  • Student0667
    edited July 2008
    So, how are you doing right now? Are the problem solved and have you enrolled in the course?
    S56;33266 said:
    If you have enrolled and registered for your classes, does that mean you are fully accepted?
    Not exactly. You may have a major academic meltdown in your remaining time in high school and your marks suffer a plunge of biblical porportion. As a result, SFU will have to withdraw your offer of admission.
  • S56
    edited July 2008
    So if your minimum requirement is 67%, and you get 68%; are you in or out?
  • primexx
    edited July 2008
    S56;33560 said:
    So if your minimum requirement is 67%, and you get 68%; are you in or out?
    as long as your final grade is above the minimum admitted (note: not the guaranteed), you'll be fine.
  • Makall
    edited July 2008
    S56;33560 said:
    So if your minimum requirement is 67%, and you get 68%; are you in or out?
    Think about that for a moment...
  • Student0667
    edited July 2008
    S56;33560 said:
    So if your minimum requirement is 67%, and you get 68%; are you in or out?
    As long as our overall admission average is over the guaranteed admission admission AND your English and Math mark is over the minimum requirement, you should be fine.
  • S56
    edited July 2008
    Thanks guys, that made my day! I have a average of atleast 73% even if I fail my exams.
  • Student0667
    edited July 2008
    S56;33577 said:
    Thanks guys, that made my day! I have a average of atleast 73% even if I fail my exams.
    I am more then certain that your won't fail all your exams, however you are not getting in with an "Average of at least 73%" if you are refering to your overall admission average. Our guarantee admission average is 80%.
  • Alex Shih
    edited July 2008
    67% is the MINIMUM average to be even "considered" for admission. Guaranteed admission average is 80% as mentioned above.
  • S56
    edited July 2008
    This is for the Faculty of Arts

    It said we are pleased to offer you admission.... if you graduate from high school and maintain an average of 67% in the classes you are applying with.

    Thats what it said on my letter. i've been going from that all along :S

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