It depends on which lab and what time of the day it is. I know that the CSIL computer labs require an access card but it's really not necessary because people are always going in and out so you can just follow them through the door. The TA's and lab staff don't check access cards either.
I'm wondering the same thing as well. Access cards are different from the student ID right? At the Surrey campus, we can just use our student ID to get into labs.
ASB9838 is CSIL... Unless you want to wait for others to open the door for you every single week, you might as well spend the 3 bucks and get a card. And you could go in whenever you want.
Alternatively, have a long, thin piece of conducting metal bent in such a way that you could insert it through the slit and touch the bar inside the door.
Wait, refund? I thought this was a deposit? Don't they return the fees completely?
not what they told me. maybe they changed it so you have to give them more of a deposit, so they can make the money off interests/investments instead of keeping a part of the deposit?
In any case, I'm keeping my card until I graduate, just in case I take any more courses that'll use it. I heard that they use the same card for the CSIL, the engineering room, and sfu surrey, anyone know if this is true?
Also, you could check the CSSS common room which is right next to one of the CSIL entrances. The people who hang out there will almost definitely have access cards. Ask one of them to let you in. They'll make witty remarks about the number of people who ask to be let into CSIL each day. Then they'll tell you to go buy a card, but if you keep bothering them someone will let you in eventually.
In any case, I'm keeping my card until I graduate, just in case I take any more courses that'll use it. I heard that they use the same card for the CSIL, the engineering room, and sfu surrey, anyone know if this is true?
The SFU Surrey CSIL uses your student ID. Just hover the magnetic strip over this black box thingy on the door and it'll open up. However, I started my first semester at Surrey so it might be different for Burnaby students.
i've got an uber card now. i can get into the super secret tasc labs. we have a fridge, microwave, couches.....i get my own computer...i can leave my shit in there and it won't get jacked.....it's great :D
yeah. just felt like rubbing that in. sorry. cost me $30 for that card, and i only get 20 back
The SFU Surrey CSIL uses your student ID. Just hover the magnetic strip over this black box thingy on the door and it'll open up. However, I started my first semester at Surrey so it might be different for Burnaby students.
Yea the surrey student card costs more (just a bit) because its access card is embedded with your student card. Burnaby students have to get a separate magnet strip card for these things.
One of the several things SFU surrey has that's better than burnaby.
edit: wait, hover? you sure it's a magnet and not rfid? (if it's the latter then it sucks)
ralph2087;29992 said:
i've got an uber card now. i can get into the super secret tasc labs. we have a fridge, microwave, couches.....i get my own computer...i can leave my shit in there and it won't get jacked.....it's great :D
yeah. just felt like rubbing that in. sorry. cost me $30 for that card, and i only get 20 back
Yea the surrey student card costs more (just a bit) because its access card is embedded with your student card. Burnaby students have to get a separate magnet strip card for these things.
One of the several things SFU surrey has that's better than burnaby.
edit: wait, hover? you sure it's a magnet and not rfid? (if it's the latter then it sucks)
what course?
Ah ok, I wasn't aware of that. Kind of looked like a idiot swiping my student ID at the Burnaby CSIL and wondering why it won't work.
It's not RFID as far as I can tell (doesn't seem to have anything embedded in the card). I don't exactly know how it works, but I just assumed it's a magnet black strip of some kind. You can have the student ID in your wallet and it can still read it. Perhaps its something different.
edit: it's like those things. Hover your card over it and it'll open.
Ah ok, I wasn't aware of that. Kind of looked like a idiot swiping my student ID at the Burnaby CSIL and wondering why it won't work.
It's not RFID as far as I can tell (doesn't seem to have anything embedded in the card). I don't exactly know how it works, but I just assumed it's a magnet black strip of some kind. You can have the student ID in your wallet and it can still read it. Perhaps its something different.
edit: it's like those things. Hover your card over it and it'll open.
mm interesting...i might be taking a surrey class next semester (or the one after it), hopefully i won't have to buy another access card.
mm interesting...i might be taking a surrey class next semester (or the one after it), hopefully i won't have to buy another access card.
You will be able to use the same card. Plus, if you want already, you can request that your card work for the Surrey campus since you're taking a CMPT course at any campus.
It's not RFID as far as I can tell (doesn't seem to have anything embedded in the card).
actually...my uber card looks identical to the csil cards and i was surprised to discover that it *is* RFID.... doesn't look it, but i just put my wallet up to the scanners at the TASC lab and they open...
csil however is not cool enough to have an RFID scanner.
actually...my uber card looks identical to the csil cards and i was surprised to discover that it *is* RFID.... doesn't look it, but i just put my wallet up to the scanners at the TASC lab and they open...
csil however is not cool enough to have an RFID scanner.
no, rfid isn't cool at all, it's amongst the worst forms of authentication you could ever get.
RFID isn't exactly "secure" (the chips can be read and copied without the user's knowledge from a distance), but then again, CSIL isn't exactly set up to be Fort Knox.
Sure, someone could go through the trouble of sniffing people's CSIL RFID chips then using them to get in, .. or they could just catch the door as someone leaves. For the level of security CSIL is going for, I'd say RFID is good enough.
RFID isn't exactly "secure" (the chips can be read and copied without the user's knowledge from a distance), but then again, CSIL isn't exactly set up to be Fort Knox.
Sure, someone could go through the trouble of sniffing people's CSIL RFID chips then using them to get in, .. or they could just catch the door as someone leaves. For the level of security CSIL is going for, I'd say RFID is good enough.
CSIL is magnetic strip. The rfid lab is apparently for special people (ralph2087's research grant).
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Also, where is WMC 3101?
Unless you want to wait for others to open the door for you every single week, you might as well spend the 3 bucks and get a card. And you could go in whenever you want.
Alternatively, have a long, thin piece of conducting metal bent in such a way that you could insert it through the slit and touch the bar inside the door.
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When I got it last semester (in Jan) it was $18 and said they'd refund $15 when you return the card, thus $3.
In any case, I'm keeping my card until I graduate, just in case I take any more courses that'll use it. I heard that they use the same card for the CSIL, the engineering room, and sfu surrey, anyone know if this is true?
No one checks if you have a card or not. No one.
But if you don't have one, you'll need to wait for someone that does have one to open it.
yeah. just felt like rubbing that in. sorry. cost me $30 for that card, and i only get 20 back
One of the several things SFU surrey has that's better than burnaby.
edit: wait, hover? you sure it's a magnet and not rfid? (if it's the latter then it sucks) what course?
It's not RFID as far as I can tell (doesn't seem to have anything embedded in the card). I don't exactly know how it works, but I just assumed it's a magnet black strip of some kind. You can have the student ID in your wallet and it can still read it. Perhaps its something different.
edit: it's like those things. Hover your card over it and it'll open.
csil however is not cool enough to have an RFID scanner.
RFID isn't exactly "secure" (the chips can be read and copied without the user's knowledge from a distance), but then again, CSIL isn't exactly set up to be Fort Knox.
Sure, someone could go through the trouble of sniffing people's CSIL RFID chips then using them to get in, .. or they could just catch the door as someone leaves. For the level of security CSIL is going for, I'd say RFID is good enough.