REM100...not a science credit anymore

cassie1013

Does anyone know why REM100 is no longer a science credit? I know that it was because I looked into it and was taking it for this reason. :| Now that I know its not, I'm kind of pissed..it's a social science credit and I have tons of those.

I hate this WQB thing. It's going to make me take 4 classes I will get C-'s in easily. 2 Q classes? Alrighty. And 2 science? Already failed one, so I guess REM100 is no longer worth even taking!!

randomuser

i agree its bullshit

this is my worst semester ever and its barely started im taking both my Science requirements...both the classes make me want to shoot myself in the head, i couldnt get into kin143 and it made me sad inside

im taking cmpt 165 and psyc 280...its awful

Student0667

cassie1013;20510 said:

I hate this WQB thing. It's going to make me take 4 classes I will get C-'s in easily. 2 Q classes? Alrighty. And 2 science? Already failed one, so I guess REM100 is no longer worth even taking!!

Sorry I didn't found this thread sooner, or I could have introduced you to some very sweet B-Science and Q courses. By the way, you don't necessary need to take 4 classes. You can take two double credit courses and pass it to get both a B-Science and Q credit from it.

I highly recommend you to take Chemistry 192. You do not need a chemistry background and there are no test. You just have to do some presentation and write a paper on something related to Chemistry. I got an A in that course. It is both a B-Science and Q (you get both). After this course, I finished by B-Science requirement. I am now waiting for Chemistry 191, a B-Science and Q course so I can finish the Q requirement.

randomuser;20524 said:

i agree its bullshit

I agree. I just took a Q course that my reasoning is worse than ever. LOL

this is my worst semester ever and its barely started im taking both my Science requirements...both the classes make me want to shoot myself in the head, i couldnt get into kin143 and it made me sad inside

Kinseology always reserves their courses for their kids before offering it to us outsiders.

im taking cmpt 165 and psyc 280...its awful

You got two words for you: Academic suicide.

JayDub

im taking cmpt 165 and psyc 280...its awful

If you think those are hard... then u r dum.

Student0667

JayDub;21398 said:

If you think those are hard... then u r dum.

People got their own preference. Let's not jump to conclusion.

nicole

What???? I don't want to drop this course, but if it's no longer a science credit....

Student0667

nicole;21400 said:

What???? I don't want to drop this course, but if it's no longer a science credit....

You will still get undesignated breadth credit from it.

nicole

Except I don't need any more UDB credits.
WTF.

Student0667

nicole;21402 said:

Except I don't need any more UDB credits.
WTF.

I went onto GoSFU and checked this course. According to the system, this course is now a B-Social Science course.

nicole

Once your major in Communication is approved, it will be important to maintain at least a 2.25 GPA (almost a C+) to remain in the program. Throughout your coursework, you will have an opportunity to experience a wide range of courses and demonstrate your competence within Communication, with at least eight lower division courses and at least seven upper division courses from a specified list of communication courses.
This leaves you with room to explore other courses in Communication as well as a range of requirements, with at least 60 credit hours – about 20 courses – across the University’s disciplines:

* Humanities: four courses in Asia-Canada, Contemporary Arts, English, First Nations, French, General Studies, History, Humanities, Latin American Studies, Linguistics, Philosophy, Spanish, or other languages.
* Sciences and Applied Sciences: two courses in Biochemistry, Biological Sciences, Chemistry, Computing Science,
Earth Sciences, Engineering Science, Environmental Science, Health Sciences, Kinesiology, Mathematics,
Physics, Resource & Environmental Mangement, Faculty of Science, or Statistics; (at least one of which must be in the Faculty of Applied Sciences).
* And, one upper division course in Archaeology, Business Administration, Canadian Studies, Sustainable Community
Economic Development, Criminology, Economics, Education, Geography, Gerontology, Political Science,
Psychology, Sociology and Anthropology, or Women’s Studies.

I guess there are exceptions?

Student0667

nicole;21404 said:

I guess there are exceptions?

I am guessing that you are a communication student.

The website probably haven't updated their course requirement after this purge. Maybe you should contact the AA about this error. Or, if she/ he is a compassionate human being, your AA may recognize that REM course of yours as a science course.

nicole

E-mail sent, hoping for the best. Thanks for the help!

illicit

nicole;21400 said:

What???? I don't want to drop this course, but if it's no longer a science credit....

then it must be the prof, is it ____ irwin? monotonous? i had him, didn't get much from his lectures as i slept through them.

nicole

Sure is. His lectures are a bore, but he seems like an interesting person.

Cassie, I got an e-mail back this morning:

Nicole,
For CMNS we require students to do 2 Science courses (min. 6 credits total) including at least one course
from Applied Sciences (CMPT, ENSC, KIN, REM, IAT),
So the REM 100 (B-Soc) course does count as 1 of the courses towards the CMNS Science course requirement,
you have a choice of taking the 2nd course (B-Sci) from one of the following or alternatively you may
take another B-Sci , including math, Geog 111, or any of the hard sciences.

Faculty of Applied Sciences
Course No. Course Title B Type Other
CMNS 110-3 Introduction to Communication Studies B-Soc
CMPT 120-3 Introduction to Computer Science and Programming l B-Sci Q
CMPT 126-3 Introduction to Computer Science and Programming B-Sci Q
CMPT 128-3 Introduction to Computer Science and Programming for Engineers *Breadth designation effective Sept. 2007
B-Sci Q
CMPT 165-3 Introduction to Multimedia and the Internet B-Sci
CMPT 320-3 Social Implications of a Computerized Society B-Sci
ENSC 100-3 Engineering, Science and Society B-Sci
IAT 100-3 Systems of Media Representation *effective Sept. 2007 B-Hum
KIN 140-3 Contemporary Health Issues B-Sci
KIN 142-3 Introduction to Kinesiology B-Sci
KIN 143-3 Exercise Management B-Sci
MACM 101-3 Discrete Mathematics l B-Sci Q
REM 100-3 Global Change B-Soc
TECH 114-3 History and Theory of Technology and Culture B-Soc
TECH 124-3 Design Theory *effective Jan. 2008 B-Soc

I believe you are referring to the WQB requirements which all students entering SFU as of Fall 2006
are required to complete, the REM 100 course counts as B-Soc not as B-SCI towards this requirement.
I have attached the WQB list of requirements which may assist you in your course planning.

Thanks,
Neena

Student0667

Hi Nichole,

At least you will now fulfill one of Communication Science and one of the B-Social Science requirement, so you did gain something...

I sincerely suggest Chemistry 192. It is a very easy course and you get both B-Science and Q from it, as well as fulfilling you remaining Communication science requirement. I took the course and got an A from it, keeping in mind that I am not even a science major.

cassie1013

^ Here's where I think the confusion is.

I am like 90% sure that before this semester, REM100 WAS a genuine science credit. What is confusing, however, is that REM100 is supposedly a science for communications....

When I spoke to Lucie (another cmns advisor) she told me that Communications requirements (such as one science from applied sciences) can be waved, but they can't waive any WQB credits because the university is really strict on that.

It's sooo stupid. I wish it counted.

on another note, nicole do you have facebook? and what's going on in the class? I was in hawaii last week, I have no clue what's going on. Plus I was late the first two classes because I missed my bus transfer.. LOL..

nicole

Yup! Just search up Nicole van Zanten.
I don't type out my notes but I can try to fill you in!

cassie1013

LOL student you are a genius!! This chemistry class looks amazing!!!!1

http://www.sfu.ca/chemistry/course_outlines/07-2/c192-072.html

and best of all - gets rid of a science AND Q!!!!!!

Student0667

To both Nichole and Cassie,

Even though you are unable to get a B-Science (instead you get a B-Social Science) from REM-100, at least you will get one of the Communication science requirement. So this is not all bad.

I am like 90% sure that before this semester, REM100 WAS a genuine science credit. What is confusing, however, is that REM100 is supposedly a science for communications....

I guess the professor who taught REM-100 like a science course was replaced by a professor who taught the course like a social science course. Regardless, you will still get one of the communication science requirement done.

cassie1013;21966 said:

LOL student you are a genius!! This chemistry class looks amazing!!!!1

I am glad that I can help. If you plan to take it, I hope you will enjoy the course and go great in it.

cassie1013

You are correct, it counts towards CMNS but Lucie basically told me to forget about that requirement LOL. She took my requirements sheet as I was explaining/asking about REM and crossed out the requirement...it still does count in the end I guess. She said they can't wave WQB but they can do what they want when it comes to cmns reqs.

Chem192 is offered next fall, along with the rise and fall of dinosaurs. Looks like I will be taking these (hopefully) next fall. The only issue I have with CHEM192 is that it's a classs that is 4 days a week - that seems a bit tiresome considering getting up the Burnaby campus has been frusterating and I like school 3 days/week. Student, do you know if there's lecture recordings at all? Because I could just download it in that case......and still go to tutorial.. that will be my science credits.

There's no way in hell that I want to redo GEO111, even though I probably should. It was the worst class EVER, with 40% midterm and 40% final. It would be an S but whatever.

Student0667

cassie1013;22004 said:

Chem192 is offered next fall, along with the rise and fall of dinosaurs. Looks like I will be taking these (hopefully) next fall. The only issue I have with CHEM192 is that it's a classs that is 4 days a week - that seems a bit tiresome considering getting up the Burnaby campus has been frusterating and I like school 3 days/week.

Unless another Prof teaches CHEM 192 in Fall 08 (unlikely, according to GoSFU) or Professor. Goyan (my Prof) decided to change the format of the course (which I doubt she would), you don't even need to show up for lectures. All you need to do is to show up for the day you do your presentations and 4 or 5 other days to watch other people present to get participation marks.

Student, do you know if there's lecture recordings at all? Because I could just download it in that case......and still go to tutorial.. that will be my science credits.

Hell, you don't even need to pay attention during lecture because there aren't any assignment or test you need to worry about. This course is pretty much teaches you about stuff that you may have forgotten from Science 10. Often, there were only 7 to 8 people that show up in lecture and I think they showed up because they are on campus on that day and have nothing else to do. The tutorial are just used to catch up on lectures and for presentation.

On a serious note, she does upload the Power Point she use during lecture onto the course website. Therefore, if you are genuinely serious about learning more about Chemistry, you can read the Power Points (because that's what Professor. Goyan usually does, she reads the Power Point).

Also, do you have another Q-Course in mind? I suggest you put the dinosaur course on hold because it would be more beneficial for you if you take a dual credit (B-Science and Q) course instead. However, you are more than welcome to do the dinosaur course if you really like dinosaurs and haven't done a single W course yet.