Yep, So looking forward to university. That I became a student. Amazingly deceptive question. I am compelled to answer, Yes! And after five years of attempted entry into SFU with mulitple negative responses from admissions to become a student. Things are looking good. Yep. I would definitely say, Yes!
Hell yeah I am looking forward to school. The next semester is pretty significant for me because this will be the first semester where I will be taking upper level courses AND do a full course load (not the 15 full, but 18 full!). Still, I am kind of worry that I may have committed hubris and be in over my head.
Master of Illusion said:
Yes! And after five years of attempted entry into SFU with mulitple negative responses from admissions to become a student.
What? I though this university have lost all its dignity and accepts ANYBODY.
actually i got rejected with a 3.3 gpa trying to transfer cause i didnt have first year english and there was no option for me to take it my first semester
actually i got rejected with a 3.3 gpa trying to transfer cause i didnt have first year english and there was no option for me to take it my first semester
Wow, good thing I didn't take my high school counsellor's advice on going to Langara for one year and transfering over so I could save a few bucks. Seriously, english credit? Unless you are a English Major/ Minor, they shouldn't force you to take an English course.
i can see the underlying objective to make sure people can speak the language theyre most likely learning...
but if youre a foreign student you're allowed to take ENG your first semester, it doesnt make sense to me at all
its safe to assume that most foreign students will have less english skills than normal students who are forced to take english before being admitted, unless straight out of high school
i know people with degrees whether they be applied like at bcit or even in the sciences who have TERRIBLE spelling, like not being able to differentiate between your youre and their there funny how things work
i can see the underlying objective to make sure people can speak the language theyre most likely learning...
but if youre a foreign student you're allowed to take ENG your first semester, it doesnt make sense to me at all
To address your concern, the university have implemented the FAL pre-req for writing intensive courses (aka any english course). Before you can take your first writing intensive course, you must obtain the FAL credit. You can still take writing intensive course before you get your FAL, they just wouldn't recognize the credit.
Still, this doesn't answer the question of why students from many different other programs are forced to take English.
Using my amazing high school English skills I think that should read "fewer English skills". (but that doesn't make much sense either)
Weaker English skills?
I have no problem with forcing people to take certain courses outside their major. SFU was getting complaints from employers that their non-English majors were retards when it came to expressing themseves with words. When a student goes into the workforce with an SFU degree on their resume, they represent the university, and all future graduates from that school. I think SFU has every right to demand that students in ALL departments demonstrate a certain level of aptitude in a number of areas.
I have no problem with forcing people to take certain courses outside their major. SFU was getting complaints from employers that their non-English majors were retards when it came to expressing themseves with words. When a student goes into the workforce with an SFU degree on their resume, they represent the university, and all future graduates from that school. I think SFU has every right to demand that students in ALL departments demonstrate a certain level of aptitude in a number of areas.
I had no problem taking an english course, what I didnt like was that I couldnt get into the university without taking two. I would have been fine taking them first semester but I couldnt.
Structurally I guess the requirement for FAL is ok, but for an arts transfer student it blocks your access.
I remember thinking it was my last semester at college and being excited as I had already got my 60 creds, then I had to take another semester to accumulate the 6 english credits I needed, and toss 6 of my other credits out, poor planning on my part I suppose its just so easy to get lost on sfus site and requirements
Not lookin forward to school at all. Classes are gonna suck, and I generally dislike how dark, rainy and foggy it is up at SFU this time of year. Shoot me now.
This semester will probably be a lot better than the previous one for me... 3 CMPT classes, and MACM 101 and TECH 101 (I probably will hate TECH101, but other than that, all's good)
Structurally I guess the requirement for FAL is ok, but for an arts transfer student it blocks your access.
Yeah, you may have to wait three months before the pricks at MBC is willing to look at your transfer credits. Chances are, being the pricks that they are, they will scam you by refusing to give you the FAL credits.
Morro said:
SFU was getting complaints from employers that their non-English majors were retards when it came to expressing themseves with words.
Is there labor shortage this severe. Employers have to hire people they don't like...
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i'm looking forward to school as well. i could still use some extra sleep but i feel like i'm not nearly as productive as i should be!
Yes, Im looking forward to school being over, so i want this semester to start so that i can get school finally done....
....but also no, cuz that means that school is closer to being over and then i have to get an actual job :(
if all goes as planned, i'll have 33 credits towards my BSc at the end of Spring '08
Cheers.
but if youre a foreign student you're allowed to take ENG your first semester, it doesnt make sense to me at all
its safe to assume that most foreign students will have less english skills than normal students who are forced to take english before being admitted, unless straight out of high school
Still, this doesn't answer the question of why students from many different other programs are forced to take English.
I have no problem with forcing people to take certain courses outside their major. SFU was getting complaints from employers that their non-English majors were retards when it came to expressing themseves with words. When a student goes into the workforce with an SFU degree on their resume, they represent the university, and all future graduates from that school. I think SFU has every right to demand that students in ALL departments demonstrate a certain level of aptitude in a number of areas.
Structurally I guess the requirement for FAL is ok, but for an arts transfer student it blocks your access.
I remember thinking it was my last semester at college and being excited as I had already got my 60 creds, then I had to take another semester to accumulate the 6 english credits I needed, and toss 6 of my other credits out, poor planning on my part I suppose its just so easy to get lost on sfus site and requirements
3 CMPT classes, and MACM 101 and TECH 101 (I probably will hate TECH101, but other than that, all's good)
Also, I will only have classes on MWF