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Very Annoyed at You People in Kinesiology!

edited August 2009 in General
Excuse the rude thread title, I'm sure most people in Kin are great human beings, but damn the enrollment process! I'm majoring in Behavioural Neuroscience, which requires half your courses to be in Kin and half in Psych. At this point though I'm still technically majoring in Bio because in order to switch I have to get some more Kinesiology credits. To get Kin credits I have to actually be able to get into the classes and therein lies the problem.
First time, I didn't even get on the waitlist because it filled up so fast. The problem is that a bunch of seats are reserved for Kinesiology majors only. So I was pretty sad about not even getting on the waitlist considering that there were like 30 reserved seats that would be opening in Aug.
But then they expanded the waitlist and I got on it! There were exactly 24 reserved seats left for the longest time and I was around position 22. So far so good. After about a week, there were 23 left. I thought, well, I guess maybe one person just forgot to enroll on their date or was incredibly lazy. Then the week after that..22 seats left.
Now there's 19! So my position on the waitlist is basically pointless. But that's not what makes me angry. What makes me angry is that this week apparently 3 Kinesiology majors enrolled.. weeks after everyone's enrollment appt!
Why did you have to get my hopes up that there would still be space and then enroll at the last minute? Not cool! :angry:

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  • edited July 2009
    have u spoken with an advisor?
  • edited July 2009
    get a scholarship
  • edited July 2009
    Already had a scholarship last two semesters. They should really just reserve seats in Kin courses for people in Kin, Biology AND Behv. Neuro. I haven't noticed so far that, for example, Chem 121 is half-reserved for Chem majors only or Bio 101 is half reserved for Bio majors only, so what's so special about Kin? Otherwise, if they want other people to stay out of the Kin courses, then maybe the Bio department should start offering some courses actually in human anatomy and biology, because that's what's really lacking from the Bio dept, there's 1,000 courses about plants and molecules and almost nothing that's on the organ level or even whole-organism level.
    Anyway, despite what people here say about talking to the profs and the advisors and getting bumped up the wait lists and enrolled that just hasn't happened for me, I tried emailing and no luck.
  • edited July 2009
    chewbacca1991;58800 said:
    yo i was a slacker in high school and pretty much didnt do anything but i was wondering if its possible to get scholarships during undergrad?
    http://students.sfu.ca/financialaid/scholarships/index.html#openschol


    The Open Undergraduate Scholarship

    The Undergraduate Open Scholarship recognizes and supports undergraduate students who are highly qualified academically and awards scholarships to students on a term by term basis. The official description is in the Calendar (students.sfu.ca/calendar).

    You may be eligible for an Open Undergraduate Scholarship if you have not received an entrance scholarship, or if you have received all of your disbursements from an entrance scholarship.

    Note: A student holding an ongoing SFU Entrance Scholarship is not eligible for any other University administered scholarships until the entrance scholarship is fully paid out. This policy applies to any term in which an Entrance Scholarship is deferred.

    This scholarship is administered automatically, which means you don't have to apply for it. All SFU students are considered.
    Eligibility

    Eligibility is limited to students pursuing a first degree at Simon Fraser University. Eligibility will expire when a student's total accumulated units (including transfer credits) exceed by 10% the minimum number of units required to complete the degree program in which the student is enrolled. (For example, if your major program requires 120 units to graduate, you will become ineligible when your total accumulated units and transfer credits exceeds 132 units.)

    To qualify, you must have

    * earned at least 24 units at Simon Fraser University
    * a Simon Fraser University cumulative grade point average (CGPA) of 3.67 or higher
    * a minimum term GPA of 3.50 in the last term of enrollment
    * been enrolled in one of the last three terms
    * completed at least 24 units of normally graded courses over your last three terms of enrollment in such courses. (For students who fall short of the 24-unit requirement because one term's enrollment was in a single course of five units or fewer, the last four terms will be considered, and that term of one course will be set aside in determining unit and term GPA eligibility. A student recognized as being required to take an ongoing maximum 40% course load based upon a confirmed permanent disability must complete at least 24 units of normally graded courses over the last 4 terms of enrollment in such courses.)

    All eligibility requirements must be met.

    PDP students in EDUC 401/402 or 405 will be notified if they are eligible.

    Co-operative Education students will be eligible subject to normal program guidelines. Job practicum courses, however, are excluded from the calculations (ie, the scholarship does not cover the co-op fee). Enrollment in normally graded courses during a co-op term may affect eligibility. Co-op students should seek advice about this scholarship before enrolling in normally-graded courses while also enrolling in a co-op term.

    Visa students are eligible on the same basis as other students.

    Graduate students, including qualifying, special and exchange students, are not eligible for this scholarship.

    No application is required. All students are considered for eligibility each term; eligible students will be notified no later than the end of the fourth week of classes.
    Monetary Value

    The value of the scholarship is set by the University as a portion of the actual tuition costs accrued by those eligible. The per unit rate for normally graded courses will be determined based on the availability of funds. The per unit rate will be set for a value within a range of $70 to $110 each term.
  • edited July 2009
    Thanatos;58798 said:
    Already had a scholarship last two semesters. They should really just reserve seats in Kin courses for people in Kin, Biology AND Behv. Neuro. I haven't noticed so far that, for example, Chem 121 is half-reserved for Chem majors only or Bio 101 is half reserved for Bio majors only, so what's so special about Kin? Otherwise, if they want other people to stay out of the Kin courses, then maybe the Bio department should start offering some courses actually in human anatomy and biology, because that's what's really lacking from the Bio dept, there's 1,000 courses about plants and molecules and almost nothing that's on the organ level or even whole-organism level.
    Anyway, despite what people here say about talking to the profs and the advisors and getting bumped up the wait lists and enrolled that just hasn't happened for me, I tried emailing and no luck.


    Wait a second, if you get a scholarship and you get to go first, wouldn't you get a seat? Are there not always a small number of seats that have no restrictions, basically for first-come first-serve students?

    I'm a scholarship recipient as well and I've enrolled in LD kin courses before and I've gotten my seats perfectly fine everytime, and since you're trying to swap your major to a kin major, you can't take UD kin courses yet so I'm assuming you're talking about LD kin courses?

    For kin 140, 142, 143, I think there are like 5-10 seats that have no restrictions (don't quote me on that but its seemed to work like that?) and usually whenever I enroll I'm between seat 1-5 and I get in fine so that's really weird.
  • edited July 2009
    you sthould try and talk to the kin advisor. i am a bio major and i wanted to take an upper division kin lab (i have not taken any other kin classes before) and i was waitlisted since i wasn't a kin major. i asked the advisor when the seats would open up and was told i would have to wait until the first week of classes which was still month away. the next week i got an email that said they had added me to the class.
  • edited July 2009
    wh0whatwhere, no, I had a scholarship the previous two semesters and I happily went along taking Chem, Bio, Math, Psych and so on but not Kin. This semester was the first semester without a scholarship and my enrollment appt was incredibly late for some reason, even later than most other people's who didn't have scholarships, so the non-reserved seats were totally full and so was the waitlist by the time I could enroll. But as I said they added more places to the waitlist.
  • edited July 2009
    Why didn't you go to the Kin department advisor a month or even TWO before enrollment and them know your situation. They can easily give you access to the course, so when your enrollment date comes, your file will already have permission so you can enroll in the course.
  • edited July 2009
    Because I didn't know a month or two before that
    - my enrollment date would be very late
    - Kin courses were so incredibly hard to get into and fill up so ridiculously fast (I thought it would be the same as Chem 121 or Bio 101 which didn't even fill up completely last fall)
    - there would be so many seats reserved for Kin students
    etc.
    No one tells you these things, and the university especially does not make a point to tell you, go talk to an advisor, they'll pretty much just do everything for you including waiving pre-requisites, bumping you to the top of waitlists or into the course, allowing extra repeats etc just because you asked nicely.
    But the past is the past, the point isn't what I could or couldn't have done - my point was really that it's just annoying when a bunch of Kin people register super late in the course just because they can, weeks after everyone's enrollment appts, leaving the people on the waitlist worse off.
  • edited July 2009
    my enrollment date would be very late
    That's odd. I got my enrollment date in June. That's plenty of time to see an advisor.
    No one tells you these things, and the university especially does not make a point to tell you...
    Welcome to life. It's true that the university doesn't go out of their way to tell you, but it's still your responsibility as a student to know how the system works.
  • edited August 2009
    Thanatos;58858 said:
    Because I didn't know a month or two before that
    - my enrollment date would be very late
    - Kin courses were so incredibly hard to get into and fill up so ridiculously fast (I thought it would be the same as Chem 121 or Bio 101 which didn't even fill up completely last fall)
    - there would be so many seats reserved for Kin students
    etc.
    No one tells you these things, and the university especially does not make a point to tell you, go talk to an advisor, they'll pretty much just do everything for you including waiving pre-requisites, bumping you to the top of waitlists or into the course, allowing extra repeats etc just because you asked nicely.
    But the past is the past, the point isn't what I could or couldn't have done - my point was really that it's just annoying when a bunch of Kin people register super late in the course just because they can, weeks after everyone's enrollment appts, leaving the people on the waitlist worse off.
    The only person to blame is yourself then. Don't need to blame the people in Kinesiology for your laziness and for you not knowing what you have to do. People in the kin program need to get their courses for their major, and maybe their enrollment dates are late. You think that is bad, look at the business faculty. Regardless, you should of gone to see an advisor early june, even before you got your enrollment date. Lesson learned, no need to hate others. Also, no one is going to baby you around, this is university not high school anymore.

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