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What do you think of the Somali Pirates?

edited April 2009 in General
Introduction

Piracy off the Somali coast has been a threat to international shipping since the beginning of Somalia's civil war in the early 1990s. Since 2005, many international organizations, including the International Maritime Organization and the World Food Program, have expressed concern over the rise in acts of piracy. Piracy has contributed to a rise in shipping costs and impeded the delivery of food aid shipments. Ninety percent of the World Food Program's shipments arrive by sea, and ships have required a military escort. According to the Kenyan foreign minister, Somali pirates have received over $150 million (US dollars) in ransom money during the 12 months prior to November 2008.

Clashes have been reported between Somalia's Islamist fighters, who are opposed to the Transitional Federal Government, and the pirates. In August 2008, Combined Task Force 150, a multinational coalition task force, took on the role of fighting Somali piracy by establishing a Maritime Security Patrol Area (MSPA) within the Gulf of Aden. The increasing threat posed by piracy also caused significant concerns in India since most of its shipping trade routes pass through the Gulf of Aden. The Indian Navy responded to these concerns by deploying a warship in the region on October 23, 2008. In September 2008, Russia announced that it too will soon join international efforts to combat piracy.

On October 7, 2008, the United Nations Security Council adopted resolution 1838 calling on nations with vessels in the area to apply military force to repress the acts of piracy. At the 101st council of the International Maritime Organization, India called for a United Nations peacekeeping force under unified command to tackle piracy off Somalia.There has been a general and complete arms embargo against Somalia since 1992.

In November 2008, Somali pirates began hijacking ships well outside the Gulf of Aden, perhaps targeting ships headed for the port of Mombasa, Kenya.


What do you guys think?

Comments

  • edited December 2008
    the FSM blesses his Somalian priests, therefore, so do I.
  • edited December 2008
    ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!! Yo-ho, Yo-ho a pirates life for me.
  • edited December 2008
    Pirates should be huge dirty white guys with BEARDS, not skinny black dudes with AKs. This sucks!
  • edited December 2008
    Morro;43315 said:
    Pirates should be huge dirty white guys with BEARDS, not skinny black dudes with AKs.
    And why should this matter?

    After all, both parties will be after the booty in the end :shade:
  • edited December 2008
    Allow me to provide some music appropriate for this discussion...

    [Youtube]1W6rFZrj8Tk[/Youtube]

    Like the Taliban Remnants and the Iraqi Insurgency, they are a threat to global trade and stability and should thus be exterminated.

    We should take a few moves off the 17th century British Navy playbook on dealing with pirates. We may strike a major blows against pirate operation by locating and launching attacks (ex: airstrikes and/or SEAL raids) against pirate strongholds. All ships travelling in and along the Gulf of Aden should have adequate security on board, I am talking about Blackwaters for privately own vessels and Marines for Government vessels.
    Morro said:
    Pirates should be huge dirty white guys with BEARDS, not skinny black dudes with AKs. This sucks!
    [Youtube]3AzpByR3MvI[/Youtube]
  • edited February 2009
    What do you know about the pirates terrorizing the ocean? Check it out how the so-called 'the mouth piece of democracy' ravaged a tiny nation. This article appeared in the Huffington Post.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/you-are-being-lied-to-abo_b_155147.html


    Who imagined that in 2009, the world's governments would be declaring
    a new War on Pirates? As you read this, the British Royal Navy -
    backed by the ships of more than two dozen nations, from the US to
    China - is sailing into Somalian waters to take on men we still
    picture as parrot-on-the- shoulder pantomime villains. They will soon
    be fighting Somalian ships and even chasing the pirates onto land,
    into one of the most broken countries on earth. But behind the
    arrr-me-hearties oddness of this tale, there is an untold scandal. The
    people our governments are labeling as "one of the great menace of our
    times" have an extraordinary story to tell -- and some justice on
    their side.

    Pirates have never been quite who we think they are. In the "golden
    age of piracy" - from 1650 to 1730 - the idea of the pirate as the
    senseless, savage thief that lingers today was created by the British
    government in a great propaganda-heave. Many ordinary people believed
    it was false: pirates were often rescued from the gallows by
    supportive crowds. Why? What did they see that we can't? In his book
    Villains of All nations, the historian Marcus Rediker pores through
    the evidence to find out. If you became a merchant or navy sailor then
    - plucked from the docks of London's East End, young and hungry - you
    ended up in a floating wooden Hell. You worked all hours on a cramped,
    half-starved ship, and if you slacked off for a second, the
    all-powerful captain would whip you with the Cat O' Nine Tails. If you
    slacked consistently, you could be thrown overboard. And at the end of
    months or years of this, you were often cheated of your wages.

    Pirates were the first people to rebel against this world. They
    mutinied against their tyrannical captains - and created a different
    way of working on the seas. Once they had a ship, the pirates elected
    their captains, and made all their decisions collectively. They shared
    their bounty out in what Rediker calls "one of the most egalitarian
    plans for the disposition of resources to be found anywhere in the
    eighteenth century." They even took in escaped African slaves and
    lived with them as equals. The pirates showed "quite clearly - and
    subversively - that ships did not have to be run in the brutal and
    oppressive ways of the merchant service and the Royal navy." This is
    why they were popular, despite being unproductive thieves.

    The words of one pirate from that lost age - a young British man
    called William Scott - should echo into this new age of piracy. Just
    before he was hanged in Charleston, South Carolina, he said: "What I
    did was to keep me from perishing. I was forced to go a-pirating to
    live." In 1991, the government of Somalia - in the Horn of Africa -
    collapsed. Its nine million people have been teetering on starvation
    ever since - and many of the ugliest forces in the Western world have
    seen this as a great opportunity to steal the country's food supply
    and dump our nuclear waste in their seas.

    Yes: nuclear waste. As soon as the government was gone, mysterious
    European ships started appearing off the coast of Somalia, dumping
    vast barrels into the ocean. The coastal population began to sicken.
    At first they suffered strange rashes, nausea and malformed babies.
    Then, after the 2005 tsunami, hundreds of the dumped and leaking
    barrels washed up on shore. People began to suffer from radiation
    sickness, and more than 300 died. Ahmedou Ould-Abdallah, the UN envoy
    to Somalia, tells me: "Somebody is dumping nuclear material here.
    There is also lead, and heavy metals such as cadmium and mercury - you
    name it." Much of it can be traced back to European hospitals and
    factories, who seem to be passing it on to the Italian mafia to
    "dispose" of cheaply. When I asked Ould-Abdallah what European
    governments were doing about it, he said with a sigh: "Nothing. There
    has been no clean-up, no compensation, and no prevention."

    At the same time, other European ships have been looting Somalia's
    seas of their greatest resource: seafood. We have destroyed our own
    fish-stocks by over-exploitation - and now we have moved on to theirs.
    More than $300m worth of tuna, shrimp, lobster and other sea-life is
    being stolen every year by vast trawlers illegally sailing into
    Somalia's unprotected seas. The local fishermen have suddenly lost
    their livelihoods, and they are starving. Mohammed Hussein, a
    fisherman in the town of Marka 100km south of Mogadishu, told Reuters:
    "If nothing is done, there soon won't be much fish left in our coastal
    waters."

    This is the context in which the men we are calling "pirates" have
    emerged. Everyone agrees they were ordinary Somalian fishermen who at
    first took speedboats to try to dissuade the dumpers and trawlers, or
    at least wage a 'tax' on them. They call themselves the Volunteer
    Coastguard of Somalia - and it's not hard to see why. In a surreal
    telephone interview, one of the pirate leaders, Sugule Ali, said their
    motive was "to stop illegal fishing and dumping in our waters... We
    don't consider ourselves sea bandits. We consider sea bandits [to be]
    those who illegally fish and dump in our seas and dump waste in our
    seas and carry weapons in our seas." William Scott would understand
    those words.

    No, this doesn't make hostage-taking justifiable, and yes, some are
    clearly just gangsters - especially those who have held up World Food
    Programme supplies. But the "pirates" have the overwhelming support of
    the local population for a reason. The independent Somalian news-site
    WardherNews conducted the best research we have into what ordinary
    Somalis are thinking - and it found 70 percent "strongly supported the
    piracy as a form of national defence of the country's territorial
    waters." During the revolutionary war in America, George Washington
    and America's founding fathers paid pirates to protect America's
    territorial waters, because they had no navy or coastguard of their
    own. Most Americans supported them. Is this so different?

    Did we expect starving Somalians to stand passively on their beaches,
    paddling in our nuclear waste, and watch us snatch their fish to eat
    in restaurants in London and Paris and Rome? We didn't act on those
    crimes - but when some of the fishermen responded by disrupting the
    transit-corridor for 20 percent of the world's oil supply, we begin to
    shriek about "evil." If we really want to deal with piracy, we need to
    stop its root cause - our crimes - before we send in the gun-boats to
    root out Somalia's criminals.

    The story of the 2009 war on piracy was best summarised by another
    pirate, who lived and died in the fourth century BC. He was captured
    and brought to Alexander the Great, who demanded to know "what he
    meant by keeping possession of the sea." The pirate smiled, and
    responded: "What you mean by seizing the whole earth; but because I do
    it with a petty ship, I am called a robber, while you, who do it with
    a great fleet, are called emperor." Once again, our great imperial
    fleets sail in today - but who is the robber?
  • edited February 2009
    New guy, no new posts till you make an introduction thread.
  • edited April 2009
    Let's see... Fighting against shitty corporations and crazy theocratic fascist fucks? They sound alright to me.
  • edited April 2009
    These guys are apparently idiots.

    A bunch of them tried raiding a commercial vessel once. As it turns out, that commercial vessel was actually a German Navy supply ship, with a 12 man security team on board.

    It ended with 4 navy vessels chasing these 7 pirates and finally capturing them after launching marines and attack helicopters.
  • -vH
    edited April 2009
    Student0667;43340 said:

    [Youtube]3AzpByR3MvI[/Youtube]
    Thank you for this.
    Now I'm going to feel gay until I can get this song out of my head.

    -vH
  • edited April 2009
    And another recent attack, this time its the pirates that need a rescue: link
  • edited April 2009
    online predator;53894 said:
    And another recent attack, this time its the pirates that need a rescue: link
    lol
    1year jail time that was kinda harsh
    and they were found guilty on creating a tool that aids piracy which is kinda bs since there are a ton of songs on youtube
  • edited April 2009
    I like how they said they don't have the money to pay the fine and they never will pay it. As well the site will never go down.
  • IVTIVT
    edited April 2009
    -vH;53887 said:
    Thank you for this.
    Now I'm going to feel gay until I can get this song out of my head.

    -vH
    butt pirate?
  • edited April 2009
    JayDub;53907 said:
    I like how they said they don't have the money to pay the fine and they never will pay it. As well the site will never go down.
    i like

    On a sadly ironic note, the four men apparently learned of the verdict well before it was announced by the Swedish court — according to Peter Sunde’s lawyer, the court leaked the verdict to a journalist who informed Sunde of the conviction an hour before it was made public.
  • edited April 2009
    the court leaked the verdict...
    leaked to the leakers haha!

    it's like getting a dose of your own meds. or some sort of "yo dawg" meme

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