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edited September 2008 in General
Is it wrong to slaughter and eat animals...considering the morality, health , and the environmental issues?

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    No.
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    I love all types of animals: Cows, Pigs, Chicken, Turkey, Horse, Dolphin, Tuna, Salmon, etc.
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    What health issues?
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    Have you seen those veggie burgers? Veggie lasagna? Tofu?
    It's enough to make you lose your appetite - and that's just unhealthy.
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    Well, on the other hand I've had tofu-derived hamburger that I honestly thought was real hamburger until the guy said "no, it's a soy derivative".

    I thought that was pretty damn cool. :P
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    the moral argument is pretty weak...
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    Well, that depends. In certain religious systems all animals as well as humans have souls, so killing an animal would be like killing a human.
  • edited September 2008
    in response to your health argument; vegetarian diets are bad for you.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/HealthSci/Eating_veggies_shrinks_the_brain/articleshow/3480629.cms

    shrinks the brain :smile:
  • edited September 2008
    Who else wants Tofurkey for Thanksgiving!?
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    i_like_hiking;38000 said:
    in response to your health argument; vegetarian diets are bad for you.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/HealthSci/Eating_veggies_shrinks_the_brain/articleshow/3480629.cms

    shrinks the brain :smile:
    Vegetarian diets are not good or bad for you. It all depends on how your overall diet is structured. A lot of vegetarian / vegan people make sure to get the vitamins that are typically deficient from their diet.

    Some meat eating diets are awful for you as well, it all depends on your overall diet. Having a 'meatatarian' diet (like on that dumb commercial) would be awful for your health as well. No fibre, and all protein and fat-- 18 fried sausages a day anyone? Also, ever heard of mad cow disease, and various other bacteria diseases (yes same threat in some vegetables, like that spinach contamination)?

    In regards to the morality, it is kill or be killed. I personally don't eat any kind of beef after having seen how they're slaughtered. Not because I felt it was wrong, but having seen how disgusting it is.

    I would say its immoral to kill and or eat cats or dogs, but that statement is really relative to this culture and not applicable in all situations.
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    To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human.
    Go to a mirror, open up your mouth and examine your maxillary canines. Do those look like they're for eating greens?
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    blackhat;38005 said:
    Go to a mirror, open up your mouth and examine your maxillary canines. Do those look like they're for eating greens?
    We have a lot of things we have outgrown, by the concept of evolution.

    In regards to your quote: "To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human. "

    I think: "To control our own impulses is to affirm our very humanity" may be more appropriate.

    What exactly is it, that separates us from the animals? My opinion is our ability to control our impulses.

    Anyway, I'm not pro meat or pro veg, I'm pro of eating what I like-- but I don't think vegetarianism is dangerous or bad, its uninformed eating decisions that are.
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    My best friend has been vegetarian for about 8 years now. She got deficient iron and had to take suplements, but because she didn't eat a lot of greens. If you're a vegetarian but only eat cheese and bread then f course you'll suffer.

    I've seen how they kill the animals, and how mean their treatments are but when it comes to flavour i love a good steak :embarassed:

    Environmentally speaking the biggest problem with red meat is about the size of the florest you need to clear to feed the animals. It has a big impact on the environment and that's why they are kept in tiny places where they can barely move( another way to get then to grow and get fat).

    I think as long as you have a balanced diet then you will be healthy. Dr. Atkins diet is no better than a vegetarian one ;)
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    Polveredistella;38021 said:
    she didn't eat a lot of greens. If you're a vegetarian but only eat cheese and bread then f course you'll suffer.
    this makes no sense.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efficiency_of_conversion

    Bottom line: Eating plants is more efficient in terms of energy transfer than eating meat.
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    IVT;38025 said:
    this makes no sense.
    theres a difference between a vegetarian and a vegan

    one is a life style that chooses no meat, while the other is all animal by products
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    randomuser;38027 said:
    theres a difference between a vegetarian and a vegan

    one is a life style that chooses no meat, while the other is all animal by products
    Vegan = no omelettes :cry:
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    i was taught by my asian traditions that anything is edible so long as it back faces the sky..@.@

    i guess most animals like cows fall under this category..
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    siuying;38029 said:
    i was taught by my asian traditions that anything is edible so long as it back faces the sky..@.@

    i guess most animals like cows fall under this category..
    sooo nothing that walks even semi upright? no kangaroo for you!:tongue:
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    lol.. but i never said i abide by traditions.. even the ones from my heritage..:tongue:

    but yes.. no kangaroos cause they're cute.. =P
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    I LOVE MEAT. And I absolutely despise Vegans. I have a fueling hatred for them. Damn tree-hugging hippies.

    But I do support organic and vegetarian/vegan food! Yummmm. Say yes to organic and tofu! (And veggie burgers ARE good.)
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    silly girl, vegans dont hug the trees, they eat the trees! ... and possibly smoke them too, depending on the tree and the hippie

    oh and I love meat.

    ps: isnt vegan technically people that dont eat anything processed as well? So nothing can be cooked basically. Or am I thinking some crazy mormon sect that do crazy things?
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    DaNoobie;38054 said:
    silly girl, vegans dont hug the trees, they eat the trees! ... and possibly smoke them too, depending on the tree and the hippie

    oh and I love meat.

    ps: isnt vegan technically people that dont eat anything processed as well? So nothing can be cooked basically. Or am I thinking some crazy mormon sect that do crazy things?
    Pretty sure Vegans don't eat anything that is from an animal or any form of animal product... That doesn't leave them with much to eat. Oh well, more meat for me!

    Anyone been to Samba's downtown -- the all-you-can-eat meat place? It's disgustingly good. Mmmm, MEAT!!!
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    I like ordering the Elvis Platter from Memphis Blues.

    It's just a big pile of various slow-cooked meats. Mmm.. pulled pork.
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    Ether;38061 said:
    I like ordering the Elvis Platter from Memphis Blues.

    It's just a big pile of various slow-cooked meats. Mmm.. pulled pork.
    oooo mann Memphis Blues is sooo good
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    IVT;38025 said:
    this makes no sense.
    I meant she thought she was healthy being vegetarian because she didn't eat meat, but she became anemic because she'd eat only dairy and carbs. You can have a balanced diet without meat, as long as you eat all the other food groups. There are 5 basic food groups and a healthy diet consists of eating a variety of foods from all of the groups but in the correct proportions.

    1. Bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, noodles and breakfast cereals.
    2. Fruit and vegetables
    3. Milk and dairy foods.

    4. Meat, fish, poultry and pulses (This one you won't have the nutrients from, but some greens have iron, beans have protein)


    5. Foods containing fats and sugars.

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