ummm buddy, dont listen to that CMPT 165, is a course on its own. I got an A in accounting A in MIS and a C+ in CMPT 165, this is me, a guy whos played around with a shit load of html.
The thing with CMPT 165 is that if you have a shit professor i.e. Greg Baker, you will get pwned. So when you take it, look at ure prof. OH AND NEVER TAKE IT DISTANCE ED!
wtf Greg is like one of the best comp sci profs we have! If you want bad profs, try the numerous ones who can't speak english.
well clutch isnt the only person primexx that doesnt think CMPT 165 DE isnt taught well...
I have heard he is a good prof from other people though, who highly reccomend him...is it so hard for any of you non com sci smart people to believe 165 DE isnt taught well by him?
i second this, if you take CMPT 165 DE and dont have much experience or knowledge take it with Anne Lavergne.
well clutch isnt the only person primexx that doesnt think CMPT 165 DE isnt taught well...
I have heard he is a good prof from other people though, who highly reccomend him...is it so hard for any of you non com sci smart people to believe 165 DE isnt taught well by him?
i second this, if you take CMPT 165 DE and dont have much experience or knowledge take it with Anne Lavergne.
but isn't the whole point of DE self study/self learning? Then they shouldn't have to teach at all. I think that you should have taken the regular version, you would have enjoyed it more. :teeth:
You don't have to be smart, really. You just need to know how to think logically. The actual "programming" part of the course is very basic.
However, it seems like arts students who take this course because they heard it was easy don't like it all that much. At least, that's been the general consensus on these forums.
I thought it was pretty basic, except Greg Bakers textbook had so many functions that we were not even tested or quizzed on.
When you include so many different functions it becomes hard to even memorize the simplest of ones. You start memorizing ones who doesn't elaborate well on, and next thing you know you're confused on other functions that sound the same.
I personally think only a moron couldn't get the concept of conditionals, stuff like traversals got a bit more complicated only because Greg didn't define or explain what were built in python functions and what were user defined fields.
Noone could even ask for guidance until a month after the midterm. None of the TA's or Greg were responding to emails or posting on the WEBct boards, so all of a sudden several people were making boards about this in capital letters and starting a ruckus, and then for the rest of the term one of the three TA's started posting visibly all the time. I think I 'borrowed' many of my codes from posts on the discussion threads since I couldn't figure them out.
Further, some know it all student in our class, Andy Shen was a pretty much acting as an unpaid TA to the entire class. It's pretty funny when a student is doing more help than the TA's.
Even his practice midterms misled you, which he reccomended you use. They were not representative of the midterm or final...sure you don't expect them to be word for word, but stuff on the practice midterm was on the final exam, and not even on the midterm. I wanted to pull my hair out several times.
In this readings, he tells you which ones to ignore, and which ones to read. So I thought at the end, why did he tell us to read all this shit that he didnt even test us on.
After reading one required unit, I thought I was screwed when it asked you to create a program to give someone back exact change. In toonies, loonies, quarters, dimes, nickels and pennies. In the example it even says, theres a few functions in here you havent been shown yet, I'll leave it you to look them up. It also didnt even give a solution, and it was like a two page process. The final was easier than I thought, but his method of teaching was just awful.
Some people finished their assignments for the term in the first week and bragged about it, others didn't. Clearly the course is easy for those in CMPT or inclined towards CMPT courses, and his teaching style was not good for those without.
Oh bloody hell, don't even say Geo111.....ugh. Fresh out of high school...took that class...and FAILED. So embarrassing - I can't believe how horrible my first semester marks were looking back, like how did I do SO bad? LOL
I heard CMPT165 is easy if you take it with Lavergne but do not, I repeat, do NOT take it with Greg Baker if you don't understand basic computing logic. He will expect you to know stuff that's not even in the book =.=
...But I did well in the course since I'm a CMPT minor :D :P
oh for sure he came into the exam room during midterm and the first thing he said was "well come to hell" my frd and i had wtf looks on our faces already then he was like "if anyone opens the booklets before i told you to, you're going to hell" and he swore a couple times too, for absolutely no reason i think he also said hes gonna "fuck us over" if we were to cheat
oh for sure he came into the exam room during midterm and the first thing he said was "well come to hell" my frd and i had wtf looks on our faces already then he was like "if anyone opens the booklets before i told you to, you're going to hell" and he swore a couple times too, for absolutely no reason i think he also said hes gonna "fuck us over" if we were to cheat
LOL the dist ed cmpt 165 course had lots of cheaters for assignment 4 in the summer
Had Pearce for 120. He was... shall we say, interesting. And by that I mean I did OK in the class but I can see how some people would not do well. He doesn't like object-oriented programming but we ended up needing to 'borrow' some functions and such from python libraries anyway.
Had Pearce for 120. He was... shall we say, interesting. And by that I mean I did OK in the class but I can see how some people would not do well. He doesn't like object-oriented programming but we ended up needing to 'borrow' some functions and such from python libraries anyway.
LOL the dist ed cmpt 165 course had lots of cheaters for assignment 4 in the summer
LOL
What do you mean cheaters...?
In my class most of us borrowed the code from each other that was posted on the forums...noone was like "HERES THE FINISHED CODE"...but everyone was so confused people kept pasting bits here and there that you could just mix and match and do it.
In my class most of us borrowed the code from each other that was posted on the forums...noone was like "HERES THE FINISHED CODE"...but everyone was so confused people kept pasting bits here and there that you could just mix and match and do it.
i have a friend who took the class. She told me this.
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cmpt 165 is not worth coming to campus for
DE or don't bother
I have heard he is a good prof from other people though, who highly reccomend him...is it so hard for any of you non com sci smart people to believe 165 DE isnt taught well by him?
i second this, if you take CMPT 165 DE and dont have much experience or knowledge take it with Anne Lavergne.
Then they shouldn't have to teach at all. I think that you should have taken the regular version, you would have enjoyed it more. :teeth:
However, it seems like arts students who take this course because they heard it was easy don't like it all that much. At least, that's been the general consensus on these forums.
When you include so many different functions it becomes hard to even memorize the simplest of ones. You start memorizing ones who doesn't elaborate well on, and next thing you know you're confused on other functions that sound the same.
I personally think only a moron couldn't get the concept of conditionals, stuff like traversals got a bit more complicated only because Greg didn't define or explain what were built in python functions and what were user defined fields.
Noone could even ask for guidance until a month after the midterm. None of the TA's or Greg were responding to emails or posting on the WEBct boards, so all of a sudden several people were making boards about this in capital letters and starting a ruckus, and then for the rest of the term one of the three TA's started posting visibly all the time. I think I 'borrowed' many of my codes from posts on the discussion threads since I couldn't figure them out.
Further, some know it all student in our class, Andy Shen was a pretty much acting as an unpaid TA to the entire class. It's pretty funny when a student is doing more help than the TA's.
Even his practice midterms misled you, which he reccomended you use. They were not representative of the midterm or final...sure you don't expect them to be word for word, but stuff on the practice midterm was on the final exam, and not even on the midterm. I wanted to pull my hair out several times.
In this readings, he tells you which ones to ignore, and which ones to read. So I thought at the end, why did he tell us to read all this shit that he didnt even test us on.
After reading one required unit, I thought I was screwed when it asked you to create a program to give someone back exact change. In toonies, loonies, quarters, dimes, nickels and pennies. In the example it even says, theres a few functions in here you havent been shown yet, I'll leave it you to look them up. It also didnt even give a solution, and it was like a two page process. The final was easier than I thought, but his method of teaching was just awful.
Some people finished their assignments for the term in the first week and bragged about it, others didn't. Clearly the course is easy for those in CMPT or inclined towards CMPT courses, and his teaching style was not good for those without.
Don't take GEOG111 for B-Sci, it's shit.
...But I did well in the course since I'm a CMPT minor :D :P
I also had her as my ta and only ended up with a C+ in my first semester.
sighs.
I was thinking HUM 227 and HUM 102
it was hell
TA were useless and prof had an attitude problem
he came into the exam room during midterm and the first thing he said was
"well come to hell"
my frd and i had wtf looks on our faces already
then he was like
"if anyone opens the booklets before i told you to, you're going to hell"
and he swore a couple times too, for absolutely no reason
i think he also said hes gonna "fuck us over" if we were to cheat
Maybe he's amazing for upper-level courses, but he made 165 a disaster for some people.
LOL
In my class most of us borrowed the code from each other that was posted on the forums...noone was like "HERES THE FINISHED CODE"...but everyone was so confused people kept pasting bits here and there that you could just mix and match and do it.