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The FLDS Church Compound in Bountiful, BC
As you all may know, after receiving report of sexual and physical abuse from a 16 year old girl, US authorities have raided the Polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints' YFZ Ranch in Texas and removed over 400 children from the premise.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/07/texas.ranch/index.html
http://www.thespectrum.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080405/NEWS01/804050310
First, I am surprised that US Authorities didn't destory the organization after capturing Warren Jeffs, the church's self-proclaimed prophets. Hasn't they learned that any religious organization based upon a self-proclaimed prophet who forced its followers to live in seculsion and openly practice polygamy = bad news. Didn't they know about the Peoples Temple or Branch Davidian?
Then, doing some research, I found that Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints got a branch in BC as well. It is located in Bountiful, BC, outside the city of Lister, BC. This group too practice Polygamy and too live in seculsion. I believe that it is time to begin to monitor this group! The sooner we begin to monitor this group the better! Only God know what sort of things they are doing in there and we can not rely on His divine influence to build a case against them. I don't hold any prejudice against Mormonism, however the history cults that lead to mass suicide or massacre still borders me. Therefore, you can never be too careful when it comes to these cults.
You thought? Am I too fascist?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/07/texas.ranch/index.html
http://www.thespectrum.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080405/NEWS01/804050310
First, I am surprised that US Authorities didn't destory the organization after capturing Warren Jeffs, the church's self-proclaimed prophets. Hasn't they learned that any religious organization based upon a self-proclaimed prophet who forced its followers to live in seculsion and openly practice polygamy = bad news. Didn't they know about the Peoples Temple or Branch Davidian?
Then, doing some research, I found that Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints got a branch in BC as well. It is located in Bountiful, BC, outside the city of Lister, BC. This group too practice Polygamy and too live in seculsion. I believe that it is time to begin to monitor this group! The sooner we begin to monitor this group the better! Only God know what sort of things they are doing in there and we can not rely on His divine influence to build a case against them. I don't hold any prejudice against Mormonism, however the history cults that lead to mass suicide or massacre still borders me. Therefore, you can never be too careful when it comes to these cults.
You thought? Am I too fascist?
Comments
Mormonism is comparable intellectually to scientology.
Joseph Smith was a con artist, a pervert and a liar.
I'm a complete atheist and have a distaste for religions equally, but the mormon 'faith' (mormon doesnt even deserve a capital letter really...") has absolutely not validity, what-so-ever--and is near the bottom of the list for intellectual soundness.
If these idiots just wanted to kill themselves, I'd be all for it. But let the kids decide for themselves, rather than filling their bottle with poison.
THAT SAID, none of that applies to the Mormons. They are not a cult, in any real sense of the word. They do not as (just as an example,) Scientology does, take all your income and give you back a stipend to live on. They do not, as Scientology does, go after you institutionally if you try to leave. They are a small, eccentric religion.
They're easy to make fun of, for any number of reasons, but they're not a cult. They certainly started out as a cult, but they've progressed beyond that as time's gone on. You'll not be hearing about any mass suicides of Mormons, believe me. Mormons are mostly just wacky, good-natured conservative people who have been specifically kept from being all that bright, but are nonetheless rather harmless.
And the polygamy thing doesn't really bother me. I just don't care. You want to marry 6 chicks? Be my guest.
so a bunch of people are brainwashed to the point that they want to off themselves and THIS is your main concern?
They can run, but at the cost of being isolated from everyone they have ever known
But that is only the groups who live in communities
IVT how would you feel if you were the coroner or police and had to deal with a putrid 30 day old corpse...the sooner they can remove the bodies the better everyone is ;)
I know what you are saying but I would rather take steps to stop this from happening in the first place. Failing that, yeah, a 5 minute warning would be nice.
If it's the latter, your family will certainly try to keep you from leaving LDS, but the church itself won't be going out of its way to make sure you stay. In Scientology, it's the Church, the multi-billion dollar entity, that tries to keep you in the fold. Big difference.
you should judge the religion not necessarily the people, like kids who were not by their own choice brought up in it
its by the same ideal i judge scientology without knowing everything about it, i know enough to know the ideals are also founded by a fraud
I will probably alter my post after I finish examining Mormonism. And you wonder why you got the reputation of a creep...
As for suggestions for TalkSFU meet-up, you said... Which I, again, believe that you are kidding...
Also, that quote of yours regarding your prospective religion is, well, scary. Combine all these quotes, I would therefore like to conclude that you are in eminent danger of having the reputation of a creep. Still, I met you before and you doesn't look like a creep at all. Looks like we have an anti-religion advocate in our mist. Say, weren't you Chen Shen, the first year guy who tried to run for senate? I recognize your avatar.
PS: Whats up with the stupid scarf in the pictures? Could he be any more effiminate/nerdy?
I think he could have had a wider margin beating Xenia if he had chosen a picture a bit different
I was sad to see she lost by such a little amount of votes, I went out to vote just out of spite, I wasnt even going to vote originally
otherwise its a religion founded by a treasure hunter / ex con named joseph smith, he claims an angel named 'moroni' showed him the location of some golden plates which had the information pertaining to mormonism
noone else could / was allowed to see the plates besides joseph himself, this is what he told people, and the plates magically disappeared after he was done too
its just an update of christian religions formed within the last 200 years based on lies and its founder was a con
life in mormon families is anything but peachy and has plenty of deprivation from things a lot of us take for granted culturally