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Parents Pray, Let Daughter Die

edited April 2008 in General
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Basically, these retards decided to ask their God to save their child from a completely treatable form of diabetes, and refused to take her to the hospital. After 30 days of suffering, the girl died.

Question is: What should be done with them? I'm a big fan of the death penality.

...I'm just sayin'...

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  • edited March 2008
    if that was in canada they would go to jail im not sure how the US law works, and the story leaves a few facts out

    are we assuming a doctor told them their child had diabetes and NEEDED medication? which is what im guessing
  • edited March 2008
    There's quite a few of these cases. I remember there was this religious mom who had 6 babies and she wouldn't let the doctor treat them. She'd pray to god instead and still didn't change her mind even some of her babies died.
  • edited March 2008
    i recall a story where a little boy was dying and all he needed was a simple blood transfusion. However, the parents were jehovah's witnesses and for some reason blood transfusions are against their religious practices. so they prayed to god for a speedy recovery and watched their son die.

    there was also a case in scientology where a mother was murdered by her son who she refused to let him get treatment for some sort of schizophrenia. apparently psychological treatment and all psychologists were evil and so she stood by idle until her son murdered her.

    kinda stupid if you ask me, whether your praying to god or xenu. lol...
  • edited March 2008
    Steven Weinberg said:

    "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. "
    one could stretch that quote :zip:
  • edited March 2008
    just shows god isn't real!!! lol
  • edited March 2008
    just another example of how religion drives people to complete ignorance... would i be too heartless if i laugh at this?
  • edited March 2008
    ^ I completely agree.
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  • edited March 2008
    since i love to play devil’s advocate....
    Triple;25637 said:
    just shows god isn't real!!! lol
    about 4years ago now I read this book I picked up @ chapters (cuz I was bored) it was called something like "if god is so good why is there so much suffering" something along those lines...ill have to double check as i lent it to someone after i finished it (btw its written by some Jewish guy)

    neways one of the points he brought up is that the things we consider evil and painful etc. are just miss interpretations on our part.

    this situation could be viewed as god giving them the child as a gift and more importantly a test of faith, since he gave them the child he has the right to take it back. moreover, I think he went to say something like the kid would be rewarded for his shortcoming in his afterlife anyways and the afterlife > this life so he doesn’t lose anything
    as for the parents their real challenge begins now, since they had faith and their child died, but the test is to maintain faith and see that this was in fact gods plan and its not that he didn’t do anything to save the child, it’s that he did what he thought was best for the child which was to reward him in going to the afterlife

    bah the argument went something like that...
    (personally i think that’s a load of BS but that again im just stirring the pot =p )
  • edited March 2008
    yeah my friend who keeps trying to get me to convert says death is a blessing because they get to go to heaven! lol
  • edited March 2008
    bufli;25655 said:
    since i love to play devil’s advocate....



    about 4years ago now I read this book I picked up @ chapters (cuz I was bored) it was called something like "if god is so good why is there so much suffering" something along those lines...ill have to double check as i lent it to someone after i finished it (btw its written by some Jewish guy)

    neways one of the points he brought up is that the things we consider evil and painful etc. are just miss interpretations on our part.

    this situation could be viewed as god giving them the child as a gift and more importantly a test of faith, since he gave them the child he has the right to take it back. moreover, I think he went to say something like the kid would be rewarded for his shortcoming in his afterlife anyways and the afterlife > this life so he doesn’t lose anything
    as for the parents their real challenge begins now, since they had faith and their child died, but the test is to maintain faith and see that this was in fact gods plan and its not that he didn’t do anything to save the child, it’s that he did what he thought was best for the child which was to reward him in going to the afterlife

    bah the argument went something like that...
    (personally i think that’s a load of BS but that again im just stirring the pot =p )
    yeah that is a pot full of BS.. and i fail to see the logic behind the argument either..
  • edited March 2008
    Triple;25658 said:
    yeah my friend who keeps trying to get me to convert says death is a blessing because they get to go to heaven! lol
    Why doesn't he let someone kill him then?
  • edited March 2008
    @ siuying
    With most religious topics though, logic does not apply since after all its dealing with a higher being far superior to us, so maybe it’s not supposed to make sense to our small insignificant minds =P
    That’s why its faith right?...we may think we know better than god, but who are we to say? He’s the one with the master plan so how can we, who have yet to even set foot on another planet, say we know better than the creator?
  • edited March 2008
    bufli;25669 said:
    @ siuying
    With most religious topics though, logic does not apply since after all its dealing with a higher being far superior to us, so maybe it’s not supposed to make sense to our small insignificant minds =P
    That’s why its faith right?...we may think we know better than god, but who are we to say? He’s the one with the master plan so how can we, who have yet to even set foot on another planet, say we know better than the creator?
    Thats right, logic doesn't apply when 'faith' is involved -- and no it doesn't make sense.

    What, you think traveling through space is easy? Tell your 'creator' to whip up a warm apple pie, see if it happens. Oh right it's not part of his 'master plan'. Got it.
  • edited March 2008
    QuestforTruth;25671 said:
    Thats right, logic doesn't apply when 'faith' is involved -- and no it doesn't make sense.

    What, you think traveling through space is easy? Tell your 'creator' to whip up a warm apple pie, see if it happens. Oh right it's not part of his 'master plan'. Got it.
    lol go read my other post about playn devils advocate ;) (which implies im not religious, though i guess i somewhat used to be when i was young and dumb)
    just thought id bring up the other side of the argument :P
  • edited March 2008
    bufli;25672 said:
    lol go read my other post about playn devils advocate ;) (which implies im not religious, though i guess i somewhat used to be when i was young and dumb)
    just thought id bring up the other side of the argument :P

    My bad.

    But the thing is, there is no argument when someone plays the faith card. They'll always be right in their minds. In the same way as a suicide bomber will, in their head, be justified in their cause.
  • edited March 2008
    QuestforTruth;25676 said:
    My bad.

    But the thing is, there is no argument when someone plays the faith card. They'll always be right in their minds. In the same way as a suicide bomber will, in their head, be justified in their cause.
    oh i fully agree, and thats why u cant really disscuss the topic with them
  • edited March 2008
    I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!!!
  • edited March 2008
    4x4 TRUCKS!
  • edited March 2008
    LOL Triple you are way too funny
  • edited April 2008
    @bufli: that's even more bull.. to say that logic does not apply when we're dealing with "higher beings" who's existence may i add.. is questionable..

    i just think that if the author is trying to make an argument.. he should fashion it in a way that others will be willing to agree with him whether they are religious or not.. i can see how faith plays into this.. but i don't think faith is a justified concept to rely upon when our knowledge and rationality tells us otherwise..

    btw.. brownie points for being such a competent devil's advocate.. ;)
  • edited April 2008
    lol id much prefer a brownie right now over some points ;) ahaha
    so anyone else want take a stab at tryn to justify something that ridonculous :P (referring to OP) haha
  • edited April 2008
    Parent's knew the kids life was going to be shit, figured he's better off dead, lol
  • edited April 2008
    Morro;25687 said:
    I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!!!
    LOUD NOISES!
  • edited April 2008
    okok so there is a god after all

    [youtube]kF3L359yKjs[/youtube]

    lmfao
  • edited April 2008
    I love that clip, lol. Best part: Ever seen a wild banana?
    wildbanana2.jpg
    They're like crappy little pineapples. The banana we know today is the product of HUMAN interference to decrease husk thickness, increase meat density, increase size, and to make them infertile to stop seed growth.

    Plus: TOTALLY gay. Completely. Like, Ted Haggard level gay.

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