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Lack of dating experience: tell or not to tell?

edited April 2008 in General
Would you tell a potential partner of your lack of experience in having past relations? How about explaining a lack of many friends?

This is something which I don't know how to answer.

For example, I could act like a really confident guy who has a lot going for him, but have no dating experience at all. If I told her of my lack of past relationships, she might be turned off.
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  • edited March 2008
    Having no "baggage" is a plus lol. Honesty is always best. Ask yourself would you want to be with someone who loved you for who or what you acted to be like. Or would you like having the peace of mind of knowing they accept you and love you knowing you good or bad? A funny thing happens when we aren't honest with our partners......doubt, you'll start doubting yourself, the relationship and even your partner. I myself have accepted some off the wall things and at the same time respected the person for telling me. I have also dumped guys for small things like this just because I felt they weren't open and honest.
  • edited March 2008
    There is no question: Don't bring it up. Don't lie, but just don't bring it up. If she asks, just mention it and move on. The last thing you want to do is come off as having low self-esteem, like you're wallowing in self-pity, or self-loathing. Most chicks won't ask about past relationships anyway, or at least not for a while. So just leave well enough alone, and try to show her a good enough time that she assume's you're a total pro. ;)
  • edited March 2008
    Morro;25583 said:
    There is no question: Don't bring it up. Don't lie, but just don't bring it up. If she asks, just mention it and move on. The last thing you want to do is come off as having low self-esteem, like you're wallowing in self-pity, or self-loathing. Most chicks won't ask about past relationships anyway, or at least not for a while. So just leave well enough alone, and try to show her a good enough time that she assume's you're a total pro. ;)

    +1
    fully agree. it's something u shouldn't bring up
  • edited March 2008
    Dont bring it up. Unless she asks. Dont lie!

    You bring it up. She's gonna think you're comparing her. Either way, she's THINKING about what you told her about your past relationship. Why bother?

    I'm with Bufli on this too. Don't worry about it, it wont come up for a while. If you get there, it means she's comfortable with you enough to even ask. Maybe she hasnt really been going out much either.

    But seriously now. IMO someone without many friends says something about a person. ESPECIALLY if you're NOT introverted. If you're shy I can understand. Otherwise......there's something wrong IMO.
  • edited March 2008
    ^ i kind of disagree about the having many friends bit.

    I mean yea someone who is really outgoing generally has a lot of friends since they tend to be uber social but that does not make them “better” then someone who is more restrained and say has fewer, but really good friends. IMO saying there’s something wrong with them is a bit too judgemental esp over a medium like a forum where the persons character is not evident...
    im probably over thinking this though =P

    as to the OP
    don't "act" confident
    u either are or aren’t, that’s not something u can really fake for long without them catching on, think of the long run, if the foundation is a lie... well where do u expect the rest to go?
  • edited March 2008
    Going to agree with don't bring it up unless she asks. Girls tend to over analyze everything in these situations so something so small to us guys can make them mad at you or worried or something similar with effects you didn't want.
  • edited March 2008
    morro is right, at the same time if i hypothetically met a guy with a lack of experience...

    it could be fun, and cute--if he had confidence, if he shows a lack of confidence then its a giant turn off, but if youre lacking in the dating/sex department and youre still confident i think its fine, just dont blatantly tell her unless she asks and dont lie as morro said
  • edited March 2008
    bufli;25608 said:
    ^ i kind of disagree about the having many friends bit.

    I mean yea someone who is really outgoing generally has a lot of friends since they tend to be uber social but that does not make them “better” then someone who is more restrained and say has fewer, but really good friends. IMO saying there’s something wrong with them is a bit too judgemental esp over a medium like a forum where the persons character is not evident...
    im probably over thinking this though =P
    Well, I'm just generalizing. We don't know the character of the OP, you're absolutely right. What I'm saying is the initial perception of someone who doesnt have many friends. That is certainly a factor. I'm saying this based on experience is all. I met my gf a long time ago and I find out she doesn't have many friends. My initial thought was..."Red flag, not many friends, not a really close friend present, there may be something wrong." I'm still with her and I love her, so I'm not saying it would have changed anything.

    All I'm saying is that IT IS something that is thought about when you tell something, "Well, I don't really hang out with ppl...or I just have this one friend."
  • edited March 2008
    madscientist;25577 said:
    Would you tell a potential partner of your lack of experience in having past relations? How about explaining a lack of many friends?
    This is something which I don't know how to answer.

    For example, I could act like a really confident guy who has a lot going for him, but have no dating experience at all. If I told her of my lack of past relationships, she might be turned off.
    Not having past relationships is no big deal. I mean, it's 100billion times better than having shagged 50+ girls and have std's right?
    It's one thing not to date because weren't about to get the ladies, and another thing not to date because you weren't interested and more focused on other things at that point in your life.

    I think either way, if you hide the no friends thing, she'll obviously find out when she asks to meet your friends, or how nobody asks you to go out except her etc. I mean, it's hard to hide something that isn't there that should be a prominent part of your life.
  • edited March 2008
    ooeygooey;25632 said:
    Well, I'm just generalizing. We don't know the character of the OP, you're absolutely right. What I'm saying is the initial perception of someone who doesnt have many friends. That is certainly a factor. I'm saying this based on experience is all. I met my gf a long time ago and I find out she doesn't have many friends. My initial thought was..."Red flag, not many friends, not a really close friend present, there may be something wrong." I'm still with her and I love her, so I'm not saying it would have changed anything.

    All I'm saying is that IT IS something that is thought about when you tell something, "Well, I don't really hang out with ppl...or I just have this one friend."


    form what you just described though it still seems like the fault lies within the person doing the judging and looking down on the other person u just met, in essence i think thats kidna the problem in general in our society with people jump to conclusions without even giving you a fighting chance

    thats why people resort to bsing about themselves so much when they meet new people its like h-core self marketing

    and i guess thats the point here to the OP, dont lie, but also avoid the truth that may lead to some bizarre and false assumptions about you ;)
  • edited March 2008
    agree with morro too.. =)

    with friends though.. personally i rather have a few close friends than a whole bunch of acquaintances.. and if someone wants to judge me base on something as shallow as the number of friends i have.. go ahead cause i don't really give a damn..
  • edited March 2008
    i never knew anyone cared about how many friends someone has, a lot of people i meet in relationships only see eachother basically anyway
  • edited April 2008
    randomuser;25704 said:
    i never knew anyone cared about how many friends someone has, a lot of people i meet in relationships only see eachother basically anyway
    Which I don't think is quite healthy either.
  • edited April 2008
    nicole;25714 said:
    Which I don't think is quite healthy either.
    well ok for the ladies, say you're all single and attracted to person X.

    person X hangs out a lot of girls. does this make him more attractive (jealousy factor?)

    YES or NO answer. no " depends ".
  • edited April 2008
    no.. why should my level of attraction change with respect to girls as oppose to person X who i'm initially attracted to? or to put it another way.. the girls person X hangs out with shouldn't even be considered in the picture between yourself and person X.. unless those girls or let's just say one girl who voluntarily steps into the picture (cause there's almost always one around just waiting to do that).. then that's just a plain declaration of war.. =)
  • edited April 2008
    siuying;25743 said:
    no.. why should my level of attraction change with respect to girls as oppose to person X who i'm initially attracted to? or to put it another way.. the girls person X hangs out with shouldn't even be considered in the picture between yourself and person X.. unless those girls or let's just say one girl who voluntarily steps into the picture (cause there's almost always one around just waiting to do that).. then that's just a plain declaration of war.. =)
    ok let me set it up differently lol i think i wasn't typing out what i truly wanted to express.

    1) assume you ladies are all single
    2) let boy X be your " target ", the one you're attracted to
    3) let boy X hang out/socialize with many girls (knows more girls than guys)
    4) assume you ladies are more attracted to a POPULAR guy

    Q; is boy X popular? therefore more attractive?
  • edited April 2008
    ^
    rhetorical question.

    I'm gonna ASSUME everybody here has been through high school. Of course the popular guy/girl is even MORE attractive cuz he/she is well liked. That goes without saying.
  • edited April 2008
    Whoever says No is lying. Haha. Sorry but...i'll explain myself to the "free thinkers" out there.

    Let's put it the other way around. Say this person X is notoriously known to be a JERK. Nobody likes him.

    Before knowing him, u thought he was kinda attractive. After knowing his personality a little. Does he become LESS attractive?

    There you go. Case closed.
  • edited April 2008
    Whip it out.

    That'll keep her busy enough so that she'll never even think to ask.
  • edited April 2008
    @illicit: well.. if you set it up that way.. take out 1 and 3 and you'll get your answer.. =)

    @ooeygooey: thank you for pointing it out to be a rhetorical question.. i knew it sounded off but couldn't pinpoint it with a half dead brain @ 2am.. yes he does become less attractive because i think a lot of people are tolerant of a not so attractive guy/girl but not so much if the guy/girl has a horrible personality along with good looks..

    i know it's unfair that looks don't cover the short comings of personality while personality can totally make someone look that much better.. which shows you how important it is to have a good heart.. =) but that's just my take on it..
  • edited April 2008
    I'm definitely with you siuying that personality is the most important factor in prolonged attraction (for me anyways). Pretty girls/boys are definitely awesome to look at, but it'll get ugly reeeal soon if that person's an ass. lol
  • edited April 2008
    illicit;25731 said:
    well ok for the ladies, say you're all single and attracted to person X.

    person X hangs out a lot of girls. does this make him more attractive (jealousy factor?)

    YES or NO answer. no " depends ".
    I was referring more to the comment about spending every last second with your boyfriend/girlfriend.
  • edited April 2008
    plastic surgery! lol

    I'm so getting calf implants and pec implants!!!!! :teeth:
  • edited April 2008
    ooeygooey;25748 said:
    Whoever says No is lying. Haha. Sorry but...i'll explain myself to the "free thinkers" out there.

    Let's put it the other way around. Say this person X is notoriously known to be a JERK. Nobody likes him.

    Before knowing him, u thought he was kinda attractive. After knowing his personality a little. Does he become LESS attractive?

    There you go. Case closed.
    Not always.

    Just because someone is popular doesn't make them attractive. I know from my experience, super popular people are usually overly outgoing and snooty so that is a really big turnoff, no matter how many girl are attracted to his looks.
  • edited April 2008
    Triple;25768 said:
    plastic surgery! lol

    I'm so getting calf implants and pec implants!!!!! :teeth:
    I recommend horse steroids instead?? you would get a more natural result, lol
  • edited April 2008
    I'm a living example that girls will go for the more popular guys (I'm unpopular).
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    edited April 2008
    Shi2;25782 said:
    I'm a living example that girls will go for the more popular guys (I'm unpopular).
    me too:cry:
  • edited April 2008
    you dont have to be popular as long as youre interesting in a way that shows, first impressions mean a lot

    and guys that know a lot of girls is a turn off, if youre trying to refer to that thing where if you ignore a girl she will like you more, that refers to when if something is too easy a girl wont want it

    if a guy makes it too easy at first or is too nice, or too much of a push over its a turn off, first impressions mean a lot, let down the defences after a while but try and be mysterious at first, and intelligents, or something unattainable

    for example, i wouldnt like the high school jock id like the bad boy with the leather jacket who skips school, the bad ass

    confidence is a must, you dont need to be popular to be confident but it can help some people

    back to the original post, a guy could be a virgin, if hes confident in who he is and its not something that hes worried about girls wouldnt care, i dont like when guys arent confident in who they are, theyre easy to take advantage of and its not like being with a socially defined role of a man
  • edited April 2008
    I don't think being popular makes you more confident. Many of the most popular people are popular specifically because they're insecure, and feel the need to surround themselves with as many people as possible .

    Really, the nice thing about being a guy is that you can work any angle. You can be the outgoing ladies man, the tortured artist, the lone wolf, the loverman, the nice-guy, the confident nerdy guy, the brooder, etc, etc, etc. I feel sorry for you women, you have less leeway in terms of (pardon the phrase,) selling yourself to the opposite sex. There are far fewer ways for a girl to be attractive, personality-wise.
  • edited April 2008
    well there is:

    granolla vegetarian chick
    artsy chick
    party girl
    slut
    bible girl
    bad girl
    dom girl
    ditz
    bitch

    but some of these mesh together

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