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Student Retention & The Road to Success

edited November 2007 in General
Over the past 5 years that I've been a student at SFU, I've gained a higher level of understanding about life, a better perspective on society, and a greater sense of social responsibility. It's only natural then, that I feel a desire to see SFU succeed in helping other students achieve similar insights about the world around them. The path to completing a degree can be tough at times, especially due to factors in our personal lives. But as members of this great university, I think we owe it to each other to make the journey a little easier.

I read an article today about student retention which really got me thinking about students and the many obstacles they face. The fact that 30 percent of undergraduates do not end up finishing their degree is surprising, considering we all have to meet certain standards to be here in the first place. I will admit that I've been to the edge and back in terms of my "report card," but along the way I picked up some very valuable lessons which have gotten me to where I am today. Although it may seem like a cliche, it was ultimately hard work and perseverance that helped me to succeed.

Obviously, knowing what you want is an important first step to building a successful career, but it often involves confusing and difficult decisions. Asking questions and discussing options is a great way to find a focus. With that said, it is great to see the forum being used for this purpose. The members here are helpful and full of experience which you can benefit from. Who better to get advice and opinions from then other students!

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  • edited November 2007
    For some reason I was under the impression almost 50% of people drop out in their first or second year.

    I was reading something in that SFU newsletter and I was surprised of how many people are actually kicked out, or put on academic suspension. From what I read i think more people got suspended than dropped out
  • edited November 2007
    I've had professors tell me that the average student is supposed to be getting C's in class. This is frustrating because most classes are curved that way and SFU will put you on A.P. if you have less than a C average. I'm not saying I have a problem with SFU kicking people out for doing badly or failing, but if they expect most people to get C's then they shouldn't be kicking people out for being below average.
  • edited November 2007
    I dunno, I am going to have to disagree with you there Ether. SFU kicks out students who are below average, why would a university want sub-par students?
  • edited November 2007
    And they do give you a chance, they don't kick you out right away. If your semester gpa drops below 2.0, you have another semester to bring it up which is what I had to do before I got my act together.
  • edited November 2007
    JayDub;17425 said:
    I dunno, I am going to have to disagree with you there Ether. SFU kicks out students who are below average, why would a university want sub-par students?
    I think you're missing the point. Not everyone can be above average. Even if you have a university full of brilliant students, 50% of them are still going to be "below average".

    I heard about this guy who ran a car dealership. Apparently he used to fire one car salesman per month. No matter what each person sold, the employee with the lowest sales always got canned. The employees were in perpetual competition for their jobs.

    I say university shouldn't be like this. University should have objective standards.
  • edited November 2007
    You have to look at it from the university's point of view. You have a university full of geniuses, they still give out C's. There is one person in this school that is not a genius but not necessarily stupid either. This one guy will be getting lower marks than everyone else and this will effectively lower the overall average of the school. To the university who wants to have a high average of their students to make the university look better, this student is dead weight who is only making the school look bad. So the university gives that person a chance to do better but he/she still fails so why would the university want to have a student who is not as smart as the others. A university always has and always will want the brightest of all students.
  • edited November 2007
    Ok, sure, but now you've got the geniuses competing with each other. This breeds hostility which is not as productive as collaboration.

    Actually, now that I think about it, competition can be pretty productive.

    Still, when someone asks me for help in a class, I'm thinking in the back of my mind "If I don't help this person, they'll do worse in the class and my grade will be better because of it".
  • edited November 2007
    That is why university is some sort of reality survivor type show, you have to create your alliances to further help you in classes so to bring your grade up but you have to sabotage anyone else who asks for help to lower their grade and effectively raising yours.
  • edited November 2007
    My friend was kicked out when she was put on A.P. and didnt bring her grades up in time.

    The school gave her plenty of time. She just didnt even try.
  • edited November 2007
    It is comment like what I am about to post that lead to people calling me a Machiavellian...

    Who cares if the student retention rate is high. Higher retention rates means more course availability for upper level coures. Also, higher retention rate mean less university graduate and the value of our degree will become more than right now.

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