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Does anyone know anything about a course about religion or the bible?
I thought i remembered reading a year or two ago about some controversial course debating the existance of god or the bible, is it still around was it a special topic? Can anyone tell me anything about it
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that would be pretty sweet.
I remember reading about this course in 24 or Metro as well
I hate calling this out on people, but please don't go shouting out these controversial opinions. If you want to, go start a thread about it and then I'd have no problem with it.
As for this class, yes it does look interesting, there are many classes out there that I want to take and I may have to add this one to it.
What kind of metaphor is that?
I'm actually curious, not screwin around.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2022:1-18;&version=9;
there you go...
or is it humans being here since 5000bc, haha.
and dun say read the bible, its way too long for my liking
i like picture books with 3 or 4 words under the photo :)
It's of course possible to take it all metaphorically and nicely sidestep the whole "truth" issue, but at that point, I really don't think you believe in the Bible. If it's all a metaphor, and up for personal interpretation, then it's hardly a definitive authority on anything - so why care what it says. Or at least, why care any more about what the Bible says than about what, say, J.R.R. Tolkein says. Both can have nice lessons, but we don't have much regard for people who construct their lives around the stories of Middle Earth - why should we have any more regard for people who construct their lives around the stories of the Bible?
bottom line.. i accept people having their own religions.. but please do not go preaching to someone who has no interest in knowing or has already make it clear they don't want to know.. force preaching doesn't make you get into God's good books.. it just shows him you're trying too hard.. =) and probably for the wrong reasons too..
anyone...?
hello...
Adam and Eve. - Nonsense, written by people who thought the heart was where our thinking went on. Can't say I'm surprised they were so wrong about biological history, though I am surprised that so many people will defend it.
Exodus and splitting the Red Sea. - There was no mass enslavement of Jews in Egypt, and thus obviously no exodus of Jews from Egypt. Israeli archaeologists have spent the past 60 years specifically searching for confirming evidence of this myth, but none exists. Ironically, the failures of their attempts to find evidence confirming their faith have highlighted yet another brazen Biblical fabrication.
The genocide of the Canaanites. - Ordered directly by God himself - kill every man, woman and child; the old, the infirm, everyone. Moses tells his soldiers to kill all the prisoners of war, except for the young men who were to be made slaves, and the young virginal women who they were allowed to rape, then either enslave or kill.
Sodom and Gamorrah. - The incitation to homophobia, not to mention a hideous display of Biblical "morality" in which a man offers up his daughter to be gang raped by an angry mob, in order to save the honor of a man.
The Great Flood and Noah's Ark. - Again, absolute gibberish. Fairy tales of the most obvious sort.
The Immaculate Conception. - This one isn't even in the Bible! A mistranslation of the original word for "young woman" and "virginal young girl" led to this myth.
The Ressurection. - Not only does each and every Gospel give a conflicting account of this, they're all totally unsupported by outside corroboration. One of the gospels actually claims that as Jesus rose from the dead, so too did every corpse in the area, and the dead walked the streets. You don't think anyone else would have made a note of such a zombie invasion? Apparently not...
The apocalypse. - The final book of the new testament is absolutely insane. Seriously, those guys were smoking the good stuff.
That's leaving aside blatantly evil ideas such as hell and damnation, the subjugation of women and the "dark skinned" people, and a host of massochistic rituals.
Again - you can certainly choose to take it all metaphorically. But don't ask me to respect that.
Either way, it's not fair to say that it's "not... appropriate" for me to point out that the Bible is almost certainly complete fiction, even if I choose to use the terms "lies and bullshit" to do so. Again, you can believe whatever you want, but unless you have some sort of reasonable way of backing up your belief, I claim the right to call those beliefs false.
Sounds crazy, huh?
http://www.news.com/2100-1041_3-5111637.html
how about now?
Beyond that, it's not worth going through the Bible point by point. I'm sure you could find a prophecy fortelling the rise and fall of Vanilla Ice's career, if you wanted to look hard enough. The overarching point, here, is that the argument that the Bible is true because the Bible says it is true is simply not compelling. Especially when the majority of claims the Bible has made have been directly contradicted by the progression of our understanding of the universe. Remember: the Bible was written by people who thought that the Earth was a disc. It makes perfect sense that it would be filled with errors.
I'll give you guys a piece of Chinese creationism. There is a supreme being that came down to the areas of Xian city in Shannxi province during some thousands of years ago. There lies the pyramids of China and where the first emperor Qin Shi Huang set-up his army of terracotta warriors. All the people of Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese decent originated from this one place. There is no manuscripts of other ethnicities or other religions but just the creation of what I'd call the Han people. This is my view on creationism and I hope you all respect that. I respect the bible too and those who uphold it's "metaphors".
Ugh, no thank you.
Therefore, debunking the idea that noah would survive the big flood. His name was Noah right? lol
and the everything has a creator question, who created god then?!?! There's some super god? and then a super super god?! and a super super super super super omega god?!!? lol
anyways, Morro knows a lot more than me, haha. I just like to stir things up!