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Frats/Sorrorities
THis has been something I've been wondering about since I first got into SFU. GRanted,I'm not living on res, so it doesn't apply to me, but can anyone tell me why many Canadian, and American universities have em, but we don't? Seems like a great way to promote school spirit, from what I've been told by friends at universities who do have em.
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(go sfu!)
also, UVIC banned them too.
I have a bunch of friends who are in UBC's greek chapters. they say that it is something you have to be prepared to be committed to. there is so much more than just partying, but frats/sororities members must put in a lot of meeting hours to plan events, volunteer, etc. which is all mandatory. they complain how it affects their schoolwork A LOT.
UBC does have little greek "branch-offs" too. I've only heard of some for sororities, not sure about frats, but really they're more like social clubs, and ALL they do is party. it's also mandatory to go to the events. so essentially, these "branch-offs" are just clubs but they have a greek name and they force you to get drunk.
by all means, I like to party but I don't party all the time. When partying becomes mandatory, somehow it doesn't sound that much fun anymore--at least not to me.
I could see it being important in a high school (especially a small one) where it is possible to know many of the students by name. At SFU (with 24000+ students) it is impossible to feel connected to the majority. I think its just better to make friends in classes for homework/social/dating purposes.
Ultimately, we are here for education, clubs etc are good, but if they get in the way of education, they become worthless..
just my 2 cents:smile:
the way i see it is that my university experience is what I make of it. university isn't there to fill the void in my life, it is there to provide me with the resources so that I can choose what I want to fill the void with...if that makes any sense (i've been studying too much--brain not functioning properly).
if SFU is able to help someone achieve what he/she is striving for, I think the least one could do is show his/her appreciation in a positive way (other than tuition =P)
with that said, i'm going to join Bhambra and say "GO SFU!"
though, i have met a lot of unmotivated types in my classes who are always talking shit about SFU...and i guess i've always brushed it off b/c there will always be pessimistic people in any university.
this thread kinda went off-topic eh?
I always hear people complaining about how their social lives stop for 3-4 months at a time. Well, wouldn't it be nice to have somewhat of a social life at school? What's the point of taking 6 classes a semester, three semesters a year, and Burning out. Can you imagine what kind of person you'll be if you didn't get a chance to breathe, and learn about who you are, for four years...... anti-social!!! There's obviously a balance between work and play that you have to keep in mind. I think a lot of people end up living 'cookie cutter' lives and think that they have to go to school, get a job, get married, and have kids.... wheres the passion ppl! What's wrong with having a little fun and taking your time to grow up? I agree that you go to school to get an education, your primary focus, But, What if you came out of university with something else, a sense of self.... that would be worthwhile for me.
Doesn't anyone agree with me, even in the slightest? n e one?
The people there are the worst ive ever met. I only just recently met two nice people in my last semester....TWO!! Out of three years, ive only met two! Thats so sad. And its not like im unfriendly or anything, im super friendly, but yet everyone at SFU is just concentrated on their grades and if you talk them its like, "omg, dont talk to me! i have to take notes to get an A on the midterm so that i can get an A on the final or else i wont get a good job when i graduate!"
Ugh.
Ive just given up talking to people now.
I'm definitely here for the academics first and foremost (in fact, the I keep telling myself that as much as I hate SFU for other reasons, it's at least good academically), but it would be nice to have a sense of having a good University Experience. To me, while important, academics are only a PART of a good university experience. Albeit an important one.
Perhaps what bugs me the most is that, having come from Ontario, I have a LOT of friends who have gone to universities like U of O, U of T, Guelph, Waterloo etc, and all have great stories and experiences they've told me about at their schools. I was amazed at the stuff I heard last year when I went back to visit some buddies. Everyone had met tons of friends, and had lots of pretty cool stories to share, whereas I had practically nothing to say. For example, I was just talking to one of my friends and he was telling me about how at Waterloo, they have Frosh week, which is basically a giant week of partying and getting to know one-another. On the other hand, I remember orientation here being basically just a glorified tour of the school stretched over 2 days. And I don't think it's fair to say "well waterloo isn't as strong academically" (which I've heard as an excuse), because I've noticed they've been constistently rated high, if not higher than SFU by Macleans...so there really doesn't seem to be an excuse.
I do however agree that it defiitely has something to do with the school being a "commuter" school. Everyone thinks "well I can just go back into town so screw this", and I guess it rubs off negatively on the school spirit. Sad really...
If it doesn't, perhaps someone would like to join me in the quest to make a last day of class celebration(/gong show) tradition! Because nothing says School Spirit like a bunch of drunken students!
... Or we can like, study or something (-_-; laaaaame).
many tried and failed
oh and having CS frosh events during the first week of class is extremely lame. LAME!!!
Also, I like how we have faculty jackets now, but it's so... ugly. My brother goes to Queen's and we've been discussing faculty jackets over the summer. Personally, I'd be willing to invest in leather jackets if it means there'll be more spirit (Queen's Golden Party Armour, lol). I'd most likely try to get people interested in them regardless, because the ones we have now are kind of ridiculous. What do you mean the SFU logo is "tastefully small"? You can't even see them. :(
But yeah, back on topic. There was a Phi Delta Epsilon booth at Clubs Day, and I asked them "Aren't frats banned?" ... their answer was "Well, it's not really a frat... it's more like a club because it follows SFSS rules."
THEN IT'S NOT A FRATERNITY.
I'd like to see some frats and sororities up at SFU though. It'd be nice.
WOW! Really? I met so many nice people on campus...
Maybe you just keep catching the bad ones.
Can't say this enough: Join a club! it's fun =) and you DO meet nice people =)