I much protest your begging to disagree. Wealth is by far the principal criterion above all others that women look for. This is really why women want guys to commit and not come and go. It's entrenched in our biology: women as child bearers need support and since they cannot depend on themselves while pregnant, need to be financially dependent on men, at least temporarily. For a guy, it absolutely doesn't matter how you look, how tall you are, or even--to an extent--how you treat her.
Here's some food for thought: nine out of ten domestic disputes (with a man hitting a woman) that get reported to the police end up with the woman insisting that nothing serious be done to her man and that the man not be arrested or charged. Why? Because she ultimately needs him. I'm not saying that he can do without her; merely, these are traits rooted in things we cannot have control over--our biological predispositions.
Of course a guy has to treat a woman right, but many women are willing to significantly overlook this (and the guy's looks and perhaps personality) simply for the sake of having that financial support from a man.
Things such as height, intellect, and status are supposed to be indicators of the man's wealth. However, being tall and smart does not always mean you will be rich as a man. Hence, these indicators are merely artificial.
Sure you can say that in a progressive society such as Canada's, the feminist movement and all that jazz, these things are not as characteristic of our society. I say that that may be true to a minute degree; overwhelmingly, however, what I stated above about wealth and attractiveness is axiomatic.
P.S.: I know I'll get a lot of heat for saying what I said and perhaps some will say that I'm a male chauvinist or that I'm overly conservative; in any case, I'm prepared to take it. But please, rather than taking this personally and making judgements about my worth as an individual, I ask you to merely assess the validity of what I said objectively and nothing more.
P.P.S.: Height is at best modest relevant to attractiveness . . . . . stop thinking about height and start thinking about wealth and success and how to make it in this world. However, all other things being equal, height does make a difference.
no heat given.. i give you the valadity of your statements.. i overlooked this aspect and thank you for pointing it out..
i see where you're coming from with this and i don't disagree with what you've said.. what i was trying to emphasize is that wealth is not the only thing that women look for in men..(because that seemed to be the focus of discussion right then) especially now that women are able to depend on themselves on that.. so yes i will agree that women are willing to overlook things out of support's sake.. but not neccessarily financial support..
Here's some food for thought: nine out of ten domestic disputes (with a man hitting a woman) that get reported to the police end up with the woman insisting that nothing serious be done to her man and that the man not be arrested or charged. Why? Because she ultimately needs him. I'm not saying that he can do without her; merely, these are traits rooted in things we cannot have control over--our biological predispositions.
Of course a guy has to treat a woman right, but many women are willing to significantly overlook this (and the guy's looks and perhaps personality) simply for the sake of having that financial support from a man.
In regards to a domestically abusive relationship, financial support can be a hugh issue in a women's decision to stay with a man, however there are many other variables. In some cultures, if a women leaves her husband, she is ousted from her family & community (even if the man has been hitting her). Women may chose to stay for the sake of the children, self-esteem issues, being scared, believing that this is a normal relationship, etc, etc. Perhaps the man is not a "bad guy" all the time & he does have some wonderful qualities, such as being loving towards the kids. As well, a lot of women are afraid to leave their husbands because they are scared for their lives. There was a case 2 years ago, on the news. A women was staying at her friends house in Port Moody because she wanted to leave her husband. Her husband found out where she was. Early in the morning, he waited outside this friend's house. He knew that his wife would leave for work soon. When the wife came out of the house, the husband ran after her and started shooting at her with a gun. The women ran & was shot (I believe in the arm). Two other women were going for their morning walk, saw this & tried to shield the wife. There was a guy driving by who also saw what was happening. This guy drove up in his car, scream at the women to get into the passenger seat, reached over & pulled her in. He then drove to the fire hall because it was the closest department that be could get this lady help (she was bleeding). I think this women was shot 1 or 2 times. Situations where the man will threaten to hurt/kill the women and/or children if she leaves are not rare & they happen quite often. Domestic abuse is a very complex, multi-facited issue that can not be simplified.
There are a lot of women (well, I should say gold diggers) that look for guys with a lot of $$$. I know this girl that graduated from SFU in marketing & she says that she has to find a rich guy to support her. Huh? I don't understand that, but its her life. I also had a co-worker that asked me "I really like this guy, but he doesn't have a car. Should I go out with him?". How shallow is that!
Now I have a thought about guys. It seems that a guy takes great pride in himself in being able to financially take care of a women. A guy puts a lot of his feelings of self-worth in being able to do this. Therefore, if he can't provide financial support, he feels that he is less of a man & has failed. It seems that being able to provide financial support accounts for a large percentage of their feelings of success. Do a lot of guys feel this way?
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i see where you're coming from with this and i don't disagree with what you've said.. what i was trying to emphasize is that wealth is not the only thing that women look for in men..(because that seemed to be the focus of discussion right then) especially now that women are able to depend on themselves on that.. so yes i will agree that women are willing to overlook things out of support's sake.. but not neccessarily financial support..
and feel free to bring on the heat.. =)
Now I have a thought about guys. It seems that a guy takes great pride in himself in being able to financially take care of a women. A guy puts a lot of his feelings of self-worth in being able to do this. Therefore, if he can't provide financial support, he feels that he is less of a man & has failed. It seems that being able to provide financial support accounts for a large percentage of their feelings of success. Do a lot of guys feel this way?