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I hate cell phone companies

edited March 2007 in General
I just signed a 3-year contract with Rogers Wireless. I only signed on for that long, because the cost of the phone I wanted was outrageous. I had the phone for about a month, and I got a message on it, from Rogers, stating my bill had been returned in the mail. I then phoned them, and they had my address wrong -- which was their mistake. They then told me my bill was due that day, and I would be forwarded to their accounts receivable, where I had to talk with another guy and I had to make a payment, or get a $4.00 late fee applied!!!! I had just signed on with them, stuck with them for 3 years, and this is how they were starting off with me! I had to pay by my credit card over the phone, and I wasn't charged for the late fee, but still. This contract I got myself (mildly forced) into wasn't starting off on the right foot.

I'm not sure I'd recommend them because of this, but what choice does anyone have?
Secondly, my phone has a 500 mb harddrive on it. It has a 1.2 megapixel camera and mp3 player. It has it's own OS, running on Java. Why can't they create a program that simply takes messages like an answering machine? It's because the phone companies are greedy mother f#$%ers.

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  • edited March 2007
    which phone is this, it's from rogers? i don't believe i've seen this model.
  • edited March 2007
    And that is why I refuse to sign a contract with phone companies. They make you think it's for your benefit (ie: free phone), but really it's so they can screw you over and you can't leave...
  • edited March 2007
    Malakaiii said:
    And that is why I refuse to sign a contract with phone companies. They make you think it's for your benefit (ie: free phone), but really it's so they can screw you over and you can't leave...
    Well, if you think about it, it all evens out. The phone companies give you a subsidy on the phone you want to get, because, as we know, a phone is a necessary part to having a cell phone plan. So, you get a phone for free, but it retails for $349. Right there, you're saving $349.

    Now, from the company's perspective, they don't make any money off of phones. A Rogers franchise will purchase the phones at almost the retail price. The money they make is from the plan itself. Now, if they gave away $349 phones all the time and didn't ask for anything in return, well, we wouldn't have any cellphone companies left. In order to earn a profit, first they need to earn the subsidy back on the phone.

    If you really think about it though, it'll only cost you $200 to cancel (which I think changed recently, don't quote me on this), you're getting a $349 phone for $200, plus whatever monthly charges you incur. So looking at it this way, I'd say it's much more wise to go on a contract. I say this because the service is something you're going to pay for regardless. If your bill is way too high, you're probably using your phone too much, it has nothing to do with the contract length, or the company itself. Most people stick with low price plans knowing damn well they'll go way over the minutes. It'd be a lot cheaper to go on a higher price plan, since the overage costs won't be as high.

    Just a thought...
  • edited March 2007
    what MG says is right, say you want to do PAY AS YOU GO.

    number one, those minutes cost more than using a payphone.
    number two, the phone you buy to utilize this expensive PAYASYOUGO service is sold to you at a retail price, therefore you won't be getting a adequate phone without paying a hefty price

    if you're going to buy a phone, from rogers say, you're going to use their service anyways so why not get it on a contract and reduce the cost of the phone.
  • edited March 2007
    It depends on how much you use your phone though. For some people, a phone is a daily necessity and is with them all the time while people who don't talk on the phone much could get away with getting a pay as you go and tossing the phone in their backpack...nonetheless ive always hated contracts becuase of the lack of flexibility in case you want to switch to another company or simply cancel your services. Rogers is ok because the cancellation fees are capped at $200, but Telus is ridiculous they charge you a certain fee per month so it really adds up.
  • Pro
    edited March 2007
    what kinda weird phone is that?!
  • edited March 2007
    SR. said:
    It depends on how much you use your phone though. For some people, a phone is a daily necessity and is with them all the time while people who don't talk on the phone much could get away with getting a pay as you go and tossing the phone in their backpack...nonetheless ive always hated contracts becuase of the lack of flexibility in case you want to switch to another company or simply cancel your services. Rogers is ok because the cancellation fees are capped at $200, but Telus is ridiculous they charge you a certain fee per month so it really adds up.
    From my experience, as a salesperson and a customer, what I think most people misunderstand about the companies and their customer service departments is that there isn't any flexibility. It's actually quite the contrary.

    Let's say, you have a really high bill, or they over charge you constantly, and you have to call in every month to complain. Most people take this as "SO AND SO COMPANY sucks balls because they fuck up my bill, I'm gonna go with another company." Now, instead, turn that around, and see that as an opportunity to milk them for everything. If you call in with the expectation to gain something from them, and you know what to say to them, you can get a "retention plan", possibly a free phone, free add-ons, etc. Seriously people, try it out sometime.

    I've told most of my friends about this. Call in with a complaint, threaten to cancel, then you're sent to the "Saves" department, and then request whatever plan you want, as long as it's within reason. My buddy had some billing issues, and he told me he wanted to cancel. I told him it's a great opportunity to get a retention plan. I've been doing it for years, and have gotten many many plan changes, free phones, you name it.

    You gotta remember that for the most part, the company doesn't want to lose your business, and the customer sales reps are trained to try and do whatever it takes to please you, since the calls are "monitored and may be recorded", they HAVE to be nice to you.

    And if they aren't, or if they're just like "fine, cancel then", well, then you have another complaint, and more ammo to use when you want to bargain with them about a new plan/free phone. Believe me, it works wonders. Try it out.
  • edited March 2007
    Thats awesome! What's a retention plan ?
  • edited March 2007
    A retention plan is a plan that they don't offer in their system. For example, a regular plan is like, $25/mth, 100 daytime, 1000 evening and weekend minutes, plus unlimited incoming. Now, if you threaten to cancel or complain a lot, they might change it around, and give you 200 minutes, unlimited evenings and weekends, unlimited incoming, and free caller ID, let's say. That would be a retention plan. Basically a plan to keep, or "retain" your business.

    I've been on a retention plan for almost 2 years, and I'll probably never change it. Actually, it's been more like, 4 or 5 different retention plans, but I like this one the best.
  • edited March 2007
    now dialing *611 hehe
  • edited March 2007
    Just remember to make it seem like you're serious about cancelling, or that you have a legitimate complaint. Can't just say "I want a retention plan PLZKTHXBYE" and expect one.
  • Pro
    edited March 2007
    Magnificent_Bastard said:
    Just remember to make it seem like you're serious about cancelling, or that you have a legitimate complaint. Can't just say "I want a retention plan PLZKTHXBYE" and expect one.

    what plan do you have?
  • edited March 2007
    Magnificent_Bastard said:
    A retention plan is a plan that they don't offer in their system. For example, a regular plan is like, $25/mth, 100 daytime, 1000 evening and weekend minutes, plus unlimited incoming. Now, if you threaten to cancel or complain a lot, they might change it around, and give you 200 minutes, unlimited evenings and weekends, unlimited incoming, and free caller ID, let's say. That would be a retention plan. Basically a plan to keep, or "retain" your business.

    I've been on a retention plan for almost 2 years, and I'll probably never change it. Actually, it's been more like, 4 or 5 different retention plans, but I like this one the best.
    i've got a corporate plan + retention plan so mine is pretty unbeatable right now.
    no way im going to drop it unless i turn into a cell phone talking addict.

    but yeah, if its the near the end of a contract, just ' threaten ' to move to another provider, and they'll obviously try to keep a customer, they'll forward you to CSR customer service relations ( higher than customer service ) and they'll offer you bonus' to stay with Rogers, thats where you milkthem.
  • edited March 2007
    I have a city fido plan, they'd probably be happy if I wanted to cancel lol
  • edited March 2007
    Pro said:
    what plan do you have?
    This is my current plan:
    $45/mth
    750 daytime
    Unlimited early evenings and weekends
    Rogers to Rogers
    100 Canadian long distance
    Free caller ID

    I gave up a few kick ass plans before, such as

    $23/mth
    250 daytime
    Unlimited early evenings and weekends
    Per second billing
    Corporate long distance rates
    Free Caller ID and Voicemail
    No System access fee

    That was a corporately reimbursed plan Rogers had a while ago, and then.


    $50/mth
    400 Daytime
    Unlimited early evenings and weekends
    Per second billing
    No System access fee

    This one didn't have the free Rogers to Rogers, so I called in, complained that the rep that gave it to me said there would be, and got the plan I'm currently on. It was a big lie, but they can't prove me wrong.
  • edited March 2007
    Magnificent_Bastard said:
    This is my current plan:
    $45/mth
    750 daytime
    Unlimited early evenings and weekends
    Rogers to Rogers
    100 Canadian long distance
    Free caller ID

    i pay 25$ instead, only difference is i get 250 daytime minutes and 250 SENT txts. i barely use the 250 i have no since most people on rogers, not to mention you having the extra 500mins lol.

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